Perhaps I can explain why Finns might not be considered "white." They pretty obviously appear as fair as their neighbors across the Baltic, the Swedes and Norwegians. The latter speak Germanic languages in the Indo-European language family. Other languages in this large family are English, Italian, Spanish, German, etc. In fact with three exceptions all languages spoken in Europe are Indo-European.
The three exceptions are Finnish, Hungarian and Basque. (One might include Turkish also in the far south east.) Finnish and Hungarian have been traced to a language family in Central Asian, Ural-Altaic. The Huns (I believe related to the Magyars) brought their language and culture to the Hungarian plain along the Danube in Central Europe centuries ago. History buffs will recall that Attila the Hun was the "scourge of Rome" (c. 500 A.D. if memory serves me.)
So while the Finns appear as "white" as their Scandinavian neighbors the Finnish language is quite different from the Germanic-Scandinavian languages. The Finnish language has roots in Central Asia.
The Basque people of far north-east Spain and south-west France speak a language that is generally grouped with the Berber language of the Atlas Mountains of north Africa. It is somewhat speculatively thought that this group of languages might be the original European language that the Cro-Magnon people brought to Europe as the original Homo Sapien inhabitants. (The predecessors of the Cro-Magnon were the Neanderthal who seem to have been a different species of human and of whom there is much speculation among archaeologist as to whether they did or did not use language and if they did essentially nothing is known about it at this point.)
The Turks also speak a non-Indo-European language. Turkish is also a language from central Asia but probably originating even farther east than Ural-Altaic. Turkish appears to have some distant relationship to Korean and Japanese.
I flew to the Philippines on Turkish Airlines and when the stewardesses made announcements first in Turkish then in English, Turkish sounded similar to Scandinavian to me (with a lilting inflection) but obviously it is not.
When I was in Istanbul, as a sort of joke for the history minded, I wanted to ask one of the stewardesses if I could find Suleiman the Magnification's phone number in the Istanbul phone directory. I feared she might report me as a potential terrorist and thought it best to keep my mouth shut.
There could be another reason why Finns are not always considered white, other than language group. They have a large area of Sami people, what we used to call Laplanders. Looking at photos of them, it became obvious that the older b&w photos showed many of them w/ Asian characteristics. The younger generations appear to have bred w/ Scandanavian whites. I think this blending of white and yellow may be true of the Ainu (in reverse) in Japan also. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ae/90/cd/ae90cd438755640006ff5a0f4f0bad1e.jpg
You bring up two interesting examples of pre-historic human migration of which not a lot is known. The Sami (I still think of them as Laplanders but that's probably as politically incorrect as calling blacks in the United States "Negros." Just don't do it.) have been, at least by some anthropologists, associated with a world-girding circumpolar culture that includes the northern Mongoloid peoples of Siberia as well as the Innuit (Eskimos) of northern Alaska, Canada and Greenland. I don't know if these people share an ethnic relationship or just a similar culture obviously adapted to cold, arctic conditions.
Apparently the Ainu once occupied most of the Japanese archipelago before the Mongoloid modern Japanese arrived. It is thought the Ainu are perhaps an early Caucasian group who arrived in Japan before the Mongoloid ethnic type had fully evolved somewhere in east Siberia or perhaps Manchuria. Today the Ainu are pretty much isolated in northern Japan.
The Ainu were noted for their heavy body hair. It is said even some Ainu women were bearded. Some years ago (perhaps 12 or 15) a skeleton was found in the U.S. Pacific north-west of a man who had lived around 10,000 years ago. (I think I recall it was found along the Columbia River in Washington State.) When the skull was analyzed it was found out that the facial features were not those of the Mongoloid Native Americans. It was hypothesized that this man from 10,000 years ago may have been of the same stock as the Ainu. So the people often called "Indians" or "Native Americans" may not have been the first humans to enter North America.
There are several fascinating hypotheses in recent years about how the Native American "indians" arrived here in the Americas. Of course the old idea is that they crossed the Bering Land Bridge when sea levels were much lower during the most recent continental glaciation period perhaps 10,000 or 15,000 years ago. A more recent idea is that they migrated along the coast line by canoes from east Siberia along the West Coast of North America perhaps as far south as South America. Some anthropologist/archaeologists are looking at the idea that people from the South Pacific may have reached South America or even the North American west coast.
Finally there is the hypotheses that Western Europeans -- perhaps even the famous Cro-Magnon people of South West France -- perhaps while seal hunting in the frozen Atlantic found themselves traveling increasingly west until they stumbled upon North America, perhaps in the region of my home state, Connecticut (or at least New England or the Canadian Maritime ). For years archaeologist noted a similarity between the Aurgnacian arrow heads of Western Europe and the Folsom arrowheads of the American south-west but today this is generally regarded as a coincidence in tool making technology and not an indication of a common origin.
In any event I've gone way off track so I'll stop here.
Vine Deloria, a Native American maverick anthropologist, convincingly demolishes the Bering Strait Land Bridge hypothesis in Red Earth, White Lies. At least I thought so. https://archive.org/details/redearthwhitelie0000delo
He didn't touch on Kennewick Man that I saw. His position is Red Man was inhabiting the Americas since time immemorial. So K Man would tend to undercut that. The political issue around use of the term "indigenous" remains contentious.
Kenniwick Man and Red Man/woman went to watch the submarine races, or wiggly salmon on their spawning run, and decided to spawn themselves!
Indigenous, although with some contention, is not much different to the Original Semites being Indigenous, and some extant group had to take over their land.
"Submarine races" takes me way back. Murray the K, the never shy, self-proclaimed 5th Beatle popularized the term. A reader's comment under a doo-wop song titled The Submarine Race on YT spoke to its origin: "we used to see "Coney Island White Fish" [condoms] floating by the pier in my neck of the woods. The Submarine Races craze was started, in the 1950s, at Plumb Beach - which was just to the east of Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn." Apparently the Submarine Race Watchers were indigenous to Brooklyn.
Thank you, Bill. However I made some errors concerning the Ainu.
I based the above comment on information I had read some years ago. Apparently fairly recent research into genetics has revealed a lot of new, updated information about these people. The Wikipedia article seems pretty good. (Wikipedia is okay as long as one avoids current political or geopolitical issues of which it has a strong U.S. establishment bias.)
Wikipedia says the Ainu are no longer kept isolated on the northernmost Japanese Island but have interbred with the Japanese and many now live in the big, southern cities like Tokyo. So, so much for my old, outdated information.
Isn't it weird that the people who most want an ethnostate want every other country to be part of a great globalist blob where all non-chosen people are interchangeable cogs to be used up by the machine and thrown away?
Hey, do an internet search for "ethnostate" and see what pops up. Well, I guess they do control the media and now our search engines.
Perhaps I can explain why Finns might not be considered "white." They pretty obviously appear as fair as their neighbors across the Baltic, the Swedes and Norwegians. The latter speak Germanic languages in the Indo-European language family. Other languages in this large family are English, Italian, Spanish, German, etc. In fact with three exceptions all languages spoken in Europe are Indo-European.
The three exceptions are Finnish, Hungarian and Basque. (One might include Turkish also in the far south east.) Finnish and Hungarian have been traced to a language family in Central Asian, Ural-Altaic. The Huns (I believe related to the Magyars) brought their language and culture to the Hungarian plain along the Danube in Central Europe centuries ago. History buffs will recall that Attila the Hun was the "scourge of Rome" (c. 500 A.D. if memory serves me.)
So while the Finns appear as "white" as their Scandinavian neighbors the Finnish language is quite different from the Germanic-Scandinavian languages. The Finnish language has roots in Central Asia.
The Basque people of far north-east Spain and south-west France speak a language that is generally grouped with the Berber language of the Atlas Mountains of north Africa. It is somewhat speculatively thought that this group of languages might be the original European language that the Cro-Magnon people brought to Europe as the original Homo Sapien inhabitants. (The predecessors of the Cro-Magnon were the Neanderthal who seem to have been a different species of human and of whom there is much speculation among archaeologist as to whether they did or did not use language and if they did essentially nothing is known about it at this point.)
The Turks also speak a non-Indo-European language. Turkish is also a language from central Asia but probably originating even farther east than Ural-Altaic. Turkish appears to have some distant relationship to Korean and Japanese.
I flew to the Philippines on Turkish Airlines and when the stewardesses made announcements first in Turkish then in English, Turkish sounded similar to Scandinavian to me (with a lilting inflection) but obviously it is not.
When I was in Istanbul, as a sort of joke for the history minded, I wanted to ask one of the stewardesses if I could find Suleiman the Magnification's phone number in the Istanbul phone directory. I feared she might report me as a potential terrorist and thought it best to keep my mouth shut.
There could be another reason why Finns are not always considered white, other than language group. They have a large area of Sami people, what we used to call Laplanders. Looking at photos of them, it became obvious that the older b&w photos showed many of them w/ Asian characteristics. The younger generations appear to have bred w/ Scandanavian whites. I think this blending of white and yellow may be true of the Ainu (in reverse) in Japan also. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ae/90/cd/ae90cd438755640006ff5a0f4f0bad1e.jpg
there are many nonwhite Norwegians in Northern Norway also called Sami
You bring up two interesting examples of pre-historic human migration of which not a lot is known. The Sami (I still think of them as Laplanders but that's probably as politically incorrect as calling blacks in the United States "Negros." Just don't do it.) have been, at least by some anthropologists, associated with a world-girding circumpolar culture that includes the northern Mongoloid peoples of Siberia as well as the Innuit (Eskimos) of northern Alaska, Canada and Greenland. I don't know if these people share an ethnic relationship or just a similar culture obviously adapted to cold, arctic conditions.
Apparently the Ainu once occupied most of the Japanese archipelago before the Mongoloid modern Japanese arrived. It is thought the Ainu are perhaps an early Caucasian group who arrived in Japan before the Mongoloid ethnic type had fully evolved somewhere in east Siberia or perhaps Manchuria. Today the Ainu are pretty much isolated in northern Japan.
The Ainu were noted for their heavy body hair. It is said even some Ainu women were bearded. Some years ago (perhaps 12 or 15) a skeleton was found in the U.S. Pacific north-west of a man who had lived around 10,000 years ago. (I think I recall it was found along the Columbia River in Washington State.) When the skull was analyzed it was found out that the facial features were not those of the Mongoloid Native Americans. It was hypothesized that this man from 10,000 years ago may have been of the same stock as the Ainu. So the people often called "Indians" or "Native Americans" may not have been the first humans to enter North America.
There are several fascinating hypotheses in recent years about how the Native American "indians" arrived here in the Americas. Of course the old idea is that they crossed the Bering Land Bridge when sea levels were much lower during the most recent continental glaciation period perhaps 10,000 or 15,000 years ago. A more recent idea is that they migrated along the coast line by canoes from east Siberia along the West Coast of North America perhaps as far south as South America. Some anthropologist/archaeologists are looking at the idea that people from the South Pacific may have reached South America or even the North American west coast.
Finally there is the hypotheses that Western Europeans -- perhaps even the famous Cro-Magnon people of South West France -- perhaps while seal hunting in the frozen Atlantic found themselves traveling increasingly west until they stumbled upon North America, perhaps in the region of my home state, Connecticut (or at least New England or the Canadian Maritime ). For years archaeologist noted a similarity between the Aurgnacian arrow heads of Western Europe and the Folsom arrowheads of the American south-west but today this is generally regarded as a coincidence in tool making technology and not an indication of a common origin.
In any event I've gone way off track so I'll stop here.
Vine Deloria, a Native American maverick anthropologist, convincingly demolishes the Bering Strait Land Bridge hypothesis in Red Earth, White Lies. At least I thought so. https://archive.org/details/redearthwhitelie0000delo
He didn't touch on Kennewick Man that I saw. His position is Red Man was inhabiting the Americas since time immemorial. So K Man would tend to undercut that. The political issue around use of the term "indigenous" remains contentious.
Kenniwick Man and Red Man/woman went to watch the submarine races, or wiggly salmon on their spawning run, and decided to spawn themselves!
Indigenous, although with some contention, is not much different to the Original Semites being Indigenous, and some extant group had to take over their land.
"Submarine races" takes me way back. Murray the K, the never shy, self-proclaimed 5th Beatle popularized the term. A reader's comment under a doo-wop song titled The Submarine Race on YT spoke to its origin: "we used to see "Coney Island White Fish" [condoms] floating by the pier in my neck of the woods. The Submarine Races craze was started, in the 1950s, at Plumb Beach - which was just to the east of Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn." Apparently the Submarine Race Watchers were indigenous to Brooklyn.
Thank you. This is very interesting.
Your comments may seem long, but both are very interesting!
Thank you, Bill. However I made some errors concerning the Ainu.
I based the above comment on information I had read some years ago. Apparently fairly recent research into genetics has revealed a lot of new, updated information about these people. The Wikipedia article seems pretty good. (Wikipedia is okay as long as one avoids current political or geopolitical issues of which it has a strong U.S. establishment bias.)
Wikipedia says the Ainu are no longer kept isolated on the northernmost Japanese Island but have interbred with the Japanese and many now live in the big, southern cities like Tokyo. So, so much for my old, outdated information.
Isn't it weird that the people who most want an ethnostate want every other country to be part of a great globalist blob where all non-chosen people are interchangeable cogs to be used up by the machine and thrown away?
Hey, do an internet search for "ethnostate" and see what pops up. Well, I guess they do control the media and now our search engines.
Very interesting. I watched the Tucker Carlson interview with Orban. Really good.
I think of Victor Orban as the only sane politician in Brussel