[Cape Town, South Africa, 8/16/21] I woke up this morning, 5/6/23, to a mass email from Kevin Barrett, announcing a debate with Ron Unz on Neocons, Chomsky & 9/11. Barrett also says: Certain people—you know who you are—have accused me of agreeing with Ron Unz too much. The trouble is, Ron consistently offers convincing, well-formulated arguments on important topics—notably
As the Jewjab genocide intensifies, Mike Whitney and Craig Roberts are no longer talking about it. Have they been converted into the "safe and effective" camp?
A recent Craig Roberts article, "Trump Is America’s Last Hope." Trump the one who ushered in the Jewjabs! Has Craig Roberts lost his mind?
I take back my recent agreement about Craig Roberts having balls. I haven't followed him in a while.
When Trump first ran, Craig Roberts was orgasmic. I thought surely he had to learn something after seven years.
Maybe Craig Roberts is clinging to the belief that the US can be saved and fixed? It is a sad state living in denial. Living in denial is perhaps America's number one past time.
On 6/12/16, five months before Trump was installed, I wrote:
"In 2008, Obama was touted as a political outsider who will hose away all of the rot and bloody criminality of the Bush years. He turned out to be a deft move by our ruling class. Though fools still refuse to see it, Obama is a perfect servant of our military banking complex. Now, Trump is being trumpeted as another political outsider.
"A Trump presidency will temporarily appease restless, lower class whites, while serving as a magnet for liberal anger. This will buy our ruling class time as they continue to wage war abroad while impoverishing Americans back home. Like Obama, Trump won’t fulfill any of his election promises, and this, too, will be blamed on bipartisan politics."
Craig Roberts thinking Trump will save America is stupidity of the highest order.
You're right. Trump is the heel straight out of WWE central casting. It is comical, absurd, and sad how poor white middle America was tricked into believing a real estate tycoon from New York City born with a platinum spoon in his mouth was all for the little guy because he put on a trucker hat. And this absurd disguise still works even after refusing to disown the clot shots and project warp speed.
It is even more of a pathetic disguise then retard queer Yale cheerleader Bushie Jr. putting on a cowboy hat. Oh well, what can you do?
Only in collapsing USA will you find millions of the overworked and underemployed thinking their savior is an Atlantic City casino conman and reality TV star whose most famous line is, "You're fired!"
I just got an email from Kevin Barrett, so I answered:
Hi Kevin,
It's the monstrous crime in progress that really matters. While it's important to get to the bottom of the Holocaust and 9/11, the most urgent task is to prevent the destruction of your society now. If you don't fight or even know you're in a war, you're done.
I worked with Noam Chomsky in the activist circles at MIT from 1999-2004. I feel like he betrayed us by posing as a universalist when in actuality, he is a Jewish supremacist. He claimed to support the MIT-Harvard Divestment from Israel campaign, but he worked to undermine it. He once said in a small January activist class that we hosted that proof of the decay of the Arab world due to living under dictatorships was that so many of the people there believed Israel was behind 9/11! He also said in that class that the quotas against Jews at Harvard harmed its success and MIT was made great because it did not limit the number of Jews. I can attest to the fact that Jews were heavily over-represented in MIT faculty, but I am not convinced as he and Steve Pinker seem to be of Jewish intellectual superiority. I suspect tribal nepotism is the reason. I believe Ron Unz has made a strong case for my position over Chomsky's. Our MIT student peace group that had been ongoing since early 2000 suddenly was overshadowed by some new student leaders that were empowered by Chomsky hosting a class on activism in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. One of the three newly elevated leaders was Jewish and another was an Israeli Jew. What are the odds! If you read Chomsky's book "Rethinking Camelot" that claims JFK was escalating the war in Vietnam and not working to end it in light of Chomsky having an ethnic anti-Catholic agenda, then it makes sense. Chomsky is a false shepherd who claims to support the ethical principle of first and foremost holding ones own actions to scrutiny which he does when "our" actions are those that can be claimed to be of the US, but never Israel, the pro-Israel Lobby or something you might call “Jewish Power.” I am sure Chomsky would say that there is no such thing as Jewish Power. That has to be an intentional deception on his part. And maybe he does it for love of his people, for money or due to being blackmailed. Who can say. But ties to Epstein and Ehud Barak make the idea that he is an on the books agent for Israel all but certain.
Mike Whitney published a very useful "Mike's Antivax Grab-Bag: Memes, Blurbs and Links" on 3/3/23, so no, he hasn't moved into the "safe and effective" camp. It's my fault for missing this item:
Patrick McNally asked if there's any hard proof of the Netanyahu quote about the USA being Israel's golden calf. I asked Kevin Barret, who just responded:
P.S. Some info on Colonel James Hanke, "His final assignment was US Army Attaché to the State of Israel as the official representative of the Chief of Staff, United States Army, to the Israeli Defense Force land forces. He supervised exchange programs in Armor, Artillery, Logistics, Combat Engineering, Infantry and Special Operations, and Reserve forces, in addition to intelligence collection and counterterrorism efforts."
Amazing, Linh, sitting over there in Laos you manage to rise to the occasion with hackles up over Barrett's mass emailing. I received it also but didn't even bother to read it as I can't take anything Unz-connected seriously any more ever since his 180 degree pivot with the onset of Covid.
If Kevin Barrett still holds with Ron Unz after the interview he did with him last night then Kevin has lost it. Barrett wrote that beautiful piece on Chomsky and Ron Unz ran over it mumbling some stupid bullshit minimizing the whole Epstein thing.
What a crazy week at Rochelle's CDC. CDC personnel get a notification that there is an active shooter in midtown that, in terms of the city, is no where near CDC. It turns out the single fatality is a CDC employee working in reproductive health. What a weird coincidence. Then Rochelle announces her leaving CDC on Friday while the Secretary of State Blinken is visiting. Why would you leave the top public health position after such a short time? And why is the Secretary of State there for your exit announcement? Has a Sec of State ever visited CDC main campus and why the fuck would they when CDC is in the HHS not State? I missed the all hands because I cannot stand her voice so maybe she explained it there.
What's the over under on where she ends up? My guess is that she's done so much for pharma that she'll be appointed president of some university (head of an institute is simply too little for what she's done) and end up on some assorted pharma boards. As Johnny Dangerously said, "Crime doesn't pay kid. Well, maybe a little."
There's a very good piece on Meryl Nass's Substack about Walensky et al. The new CDC director is probably going to be the shill we had as CDC director here in Maine, a man who tried to cover up a Legionnaire's outbreak at a VA hospital in Illinois, which fired him.
My oldest nephew, 46, "died suddenly" in New York last week. His father, a former director of the World Bank, had absolute trust in the quality of US sickcare - despite my efforts to educate him.
I used to post messages regularly on unz.com. He never replied to my messages regarding vaccine injuries.
When people write of the superb health care [sic] wealthy Americans enjoy, I always beg to differ. They just get more of the same crap care that's dished out to the rest of us and don't have the smarts to find things out for themselves (little things such as breast cancer being mostly preventable and curable).
Today was a hard read but important-Angry White pussy line particularly. Seems difficult to grow back a pair of balls once they're gone. Naming Jewish power is still my number one priority so that the Talmudic syndicate is exposed for all their satanic operations.
Hi Peggy, I did listen to Kevin's interview with Unz. Ron Unz nailed his metaphorical coffin shut as far as I am concerned. You did well to avoid it. I can only hope that Kevin finally sees Ron for what he is.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
I fear this may help explain why Kevin Barrett has trouble seeing the primary loyalties of Ron Unz. I imagine that Kevin being on Unz's front page is a significant contribution to Kevin's audience size and contributor base. Just a guess...
"Though entirely baseless, it’s taken by fools as fact, but these chumps also believe in gas chambers,"
you write. And since we agree that words are important, I will answer. Last night, after watching the crowing of the latest British king, I wandered over to 'who Do You Think You Are?' a social history documentary series which is always of great interest to me. Last night, the history of the family of Matt Lukas, the comedian of Little Britain fame was being traced. I did not know he was of Jewish background and the program was anything but funny. His grandmother was a refugee from Berlin just prior to World War 2. An only child, she had left her mother who suffered from multiple sclerosis behind, unable to travel. Many of her relatives fled to so after visiting Berlin, Matt was taken to the Netherlands and among other things, discovered one of his grandmother's cousins had boarded with the Frank family of Anna Frank fame, just before they went into hiding. He is mentioned in one of Anna's letters. Matt was guided to the marshalling camp where Jews being deported were taken before being taken to various camps such as Auschwitz and Sebiborg. The woman who was sharing this history with him brought up photocopies of lists of names which included his family members and their destinations, and inevitably, the dates of their deaths which were all faithfully recorded by the German scribes. Only a handful of younger cousins survived from this large family, most of whom Matt had been in contact with in his youth. So my question to you is: is this all faked? These lists complete with names and dates which exactly correspond to family records kept by his grandmother and records in Berlin? And where did these people go if they did not go to the death camps? Is there an unknown country somewhere where they were all shunted off to and continued to live and never made attempts to contact their cousins and sisters? And all these pictures and accounts I have read over the years, personal accounts of people who survived, typically only one of many family members who did not? Are they are faked as well? You must realise that what you said in one sentence is ridiculous and tarnishes the beauty of your usual conversation. Lest you think I am a Jew, I am not. I have traced my family history back to the original knights who came over to England with William the Conqueror. Not that that is anything to be proud of, but definitely not Jews. But words matter.
As I've said repeatedly, one doesn't have to speculate as what happened, only point out the bullshit. I've never said Jews didn't die. Many millions of people died in WWII, including at least a million Vietnamese. There are photos of skeletal Vietnamese, too, and entire families were also wiped out. That doesn't mean they were killed in gas chambers by Nazis.
Many people have pointed out the bullshit in the Holocaust narrative, which we aren't allowed to question without being branded Nazi. In Germany, you can even go to jail for doubting any aspect of the colossal Holocaust bullshit.
In a recent article, I quoted my late friend Rudy List, a world class mathetician, “The British could decode the Enigma machine, so they knew what the Germans were doing. There’s no mention of gas chambers. The Red Cross inspected the concentration camps, and there’s no mention of it. If there’s anything to the official narrative, there must be some documentation about gas chambers in the German archives, but nobody has found anything about it, and there’s nothing in the Russian archives.”
For stating those facts, Rudy would have been jailed in Germany.
Here's an eye opening article by Alexander Cockburn:
Many more people have debunked the absurd Holocaust narrative. Of course, the BBC, CNN or Fox is not going to interview or feature them. From their narratives on 9/11, Jewjabs or Ukraine War, etc., it should be clear they are endless sources of massive lies.
Dear Linh, thanks for taking the time to answer. I have read the Unz articles before and am not convinced, even though they give a very complete picture of how cancellation was being foisted on us as a trial run for the future. As a teenager in the late fifties and early sixties I read many personal accounts of death camps and the thought they were all fakes (and it would have need to be all) is not something I can yet concede. But I am open to having my opinion changed. I found the Cockburn article very interesting, especially as it led me to another of his articles which talk about the need for context in judging historical situations. I have recently discovered (perhaps through a comment in your posts, I can't remember) a Substack account #Prussiagate. In it, there are a number of articles about the context from which the Nazi Party arose, and this has almost nothing to do with the evils of worldwide Jewry. This goes some way to explain why Hitler tolerated Jewish generals and officers in his army or for that matter, a Jewish dentist fixing his teeth. The Jews were tangential to his and the Prussians real objectives, which they seem quite on track to achieve. Best wishes, Isha
Many Holocaust accounts are bullshit, others are truthful, but the true ones describe concentration camps, not death camps with gas chambers. Take perhaps the best among them, If This is Man by Primo Levi. There's no mention of gas chambers, and Levi survived until the end of the war, like so many inmates of these "death camps." Many did die near the end of WWII, thanks to massive allied bombing of Nazi occupied countries. Germans themselves were starving outside the camps. In Vietnam, at least a million people died primarily because food couldn't get to them, thanks to allied bombing. In short, Americans caused those skeletal Jews you see in the famous photos, including the corpses you see stacked up.
After the Fall of Saigon, hundreds of thousands of people were herded into Communist concentration camps, and their memoirs often sound worse than true Holocaust narratives. Others who didn't write about their hellish experiences would talk about it, in bits and pieces. I've heard these stories. No Vietnamese claims that Communists ran death camps, only vicious concentration camps where sadistic punishment often occured, and yes, people were murdered.
Let me ask you an innocent question. If Jews were meant to be mass murdered in death camps, why were so many still alive years into their internment. If the answer is they had to be worked nearly to death before being murdered, then why weren't they killed when they were so starved, by Allied bombing, they were useless as workers?
For lying stupendously about his Holocaust experience, Elie Wiesel was awarded the Nobel Prize!
In a recent article, I quoted a passage from the website of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial and Museum, "Bones that did not burn completely were ground to powder with pestles and then dumped, along with the ashes, in the rivers Soła and Vistula and in nearby ponds, or strewn in the fields as fertilizer, or used as landfill on uneven ground and in marshes."
Dear Linh, In answer to your question there was a distinction between death camps and concentration camps, both of which the Nazis built in abundance. Sobibor was used only for murder and to my understanding, did not have a selection committee - if you were sent there, it was to die. Auschwitz-Birkenau, again to my understanding, was vast and included areas for those meant to be murdered immediately, workers, and others selected as workers being 'stored' I guess you could say, who did have access to a hospital of sorts, but what that meant was a place to lie when you were obviously too ill to work and would probably die soon. But not always. Prisoners who had been medical people in their former lives were used to staff these hospitals. Don't forget that the majority of doctors in Berlin had been Jewish. A reference to hospitals did not mean anything like medical care, it mostly meant not having to go out to work and someone perhaps bringing you water. A camp as enormous as Auschwitz-Birkenau had many different aspects and from all I have read the Nazis did not have a single comprehensive plan for creating these places - they made it up as they went along. Perhaps the answer to your question as to why they were not killed is that the effort was too monumental. Many of them were killed through beatings and neglect, but as I understand it, the gas chambers were reserved for entire trainloads that could be processed in an industrial way. This is how it was at Sobibor and similar places - off the trains, down the ramp, and off to the gas chambers.
I don't know why the idea that ground bones could be used for fertilizer is so absurd to you - charcoal from burnt forests was routinely exported to Britain from the US as fertilizer before the days of phosphate fertilizers from Nauru arrived and bonemeal is still used as a fertilizer, albeit not carbonized. Germany did not have a source of phosphate fertilizer that I am aware. And if Germans and their prisoners were starving, it was because Allied bombers stopped the flow of agricultural products from the countries they had invaded, the source of German food for much of the war years. This was the reason the Dutch and other populations were starving during the last years of the war.
As to why the British made no mention of gas ovens in their despatches, I understand that they certainly knew about them as they were told of them by people who escaped Europe to bring the word and they chose not to put an end to it, prioritizing their military and political goals. Context is needed here. This is not something to be proud of later and might have been carefully covered up. FOI was not a thing then and the English have not been called 'perfidious Albion' for nothing.
By the way, I instantly knew Wiesel's story about the young violinist was bullshit, having once played the violin. It is a fragile and highly-strung instrument (indeed the origin of the expression I believe) and neither the violin nor its bearer would have been in any condition to play Beethoven in a moving fashion. Just ridiculous as any violinist would know.
Agree. Simple. 'Who Do You Think You Are' only brings us stories that have a dramatic twist, most are rejected as being too boring. So and so begat so and so and nothing happened. Well, lots of things happened, but not suitable for our tv audience. Entertaining abstractions make the cut.
Great. So why do Jews think that their abstractions are more deserving of defence than any other group?
I have had dumb arguments ending in ad hominems (ie. "anti Semite) because they do not want the light shed on their misdeeds and bad behaviour. For example, one of my customers took offence to my sign that states, "BDS Israel". So my reply was, " Are you telling me that it is Jewish pride that is behind the defence of their bad actions? That, it is only reprehensible behaviour if non-Jews project that behaviour?"
Non-Jews do not scream like Jews for censorship, cancelling or doxxing, and demand judicial punishment for saying something that disagrees with them... or prison time.
Perhaps more groups should be crying out for justice for their abstractions - the massacred groups in Ruanda or Cambodia for instance. The answer to that one is obvious. I have often thought that the massacre of the Twin Towers was nothing on the scale of deaths except that it made Prime and every other Time on television which turned into a Major Abstraction. Next to what happened in Ruanda, of which I have seen no action photos, it was very small indeed. And next to covid and vaccination deaths - tiny - hence the need to censor and cancel endlessly and the stifled cries are coming from all directions, lets leave the Jew, non-Jew dichotomy out of it.
Hi everyone,
As the Jewjab genocide intensifies, Mike Whitney and Craig Roberts are no longer talking about it. Have they been converted into the "safe and effective" camp?
A recent Craig Roberts article, "Trump Is America’s Last Hope." Trump the one who ushered in the Jewjabs! Has Craig Roberts lost his mind?
I take back my recent agreement about Craig Roberts having balls. I haven't followed him in a while.
When Trump first ran, Craig Roberts was orgasmic. I thought surely he had to learn something after seven years.
Linh
Maybe Craig Roberts is clinging to the belief that the US can be saved and fixed? It is a sad state living in denial. Living in denial is perhaps America's number one past time.
Hi Frank,
On 6/12/16, five months before Trump was installed, I wrote:
"In 2008, Obama was touted as a political outsider who will hose away all of the rot and bloody criminality of the Bush years. He turned out to be a deft move by our ruling class. Though fools still refuse to see it, Obama is a perfect servant of our military banking complex. Now, Trump is being trumpeted as another political outsider.
"A Trump presidency will temporarily appease restless, lower class whites, while serving as a magnet for liberal anger. This will buy our ruling class time as they continue to wage war abroad while impoverishing Americans back home. Like Obama, Trump won’t fulfill any of his election promises, and this, too, will be blamed on bipartisan politics."
Craig Roberts thinking Trump will save America is stupidity of the highest order.
Linh
You're right. Trump is the heel straight out of WWE central casting. It is comical, absurd, and sad how poor white middle America was tricked into believing a real estate tycoon from New York City born with a platinum spoon in his mouth was all for the little guy because he put on a trucker hat. And this absurd disguise still works even after refusing to disown the clot shots and project warp speed.
It is even more of a pathetic disguise then retard queer Yale cheerleader Bushie Jr. putting on a cowboy hat. Oh well, what can you do?
Hi Frank,
Only in collapsing USA will you find millions of the overworked and underemployed thinking their savior is an Atlantic City casino conman and reality TV star whose most famous line is, "You're fired!"
Linh
Hi everyone,
I just got an email from Kevin Barrett, so I answered:
Hi Kevin,
It's the monstrous crime in progress that really matters. While it's important to get to the bottom of the Holocaust and 9/11, the most urgent task is to prevent the destruction of your society now. If you don't fight or even know you're in a war, you're done.
Ron is just jerking off his Angry White Pussies.
Linh
I worked with Noam Chomsky in the activist circles at MIT from 1999-2004. I feel like he betrayed us by posing as a universalist when in actuality, he is a Jewish supremacist. He claimed to support the MIT-Harvard Divestment from Israel campaign, but he worked to undermine it. He once said in a small January activist class that we hosted that proof of the decay of the Arab world due to living under dictatorships was that so many of the people there believed Israel was behind 9/11! He also said in that class that the quotas against Jews at Harvard harmed its success and MIT was made great because it did not limit the number of Jews. I can attest to the fact that Jews were heavily over-represented in MIT faculty, but I am not convinced as he and Steve Pinker seem to be of Jewish intellectual superiority. I suspect tribal nepotism is the reason. I believe Ron Unz has made a strong case for my position over Chomsky's. Our MIT student peace group that had been ongoing since early 2000 suddenly was overshadowed by some new student leaders that were empowered by Chomsky hosting a class on activism in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. One of the three newly elevated leaders was Jewish and another was an Israeli Jew. What are the odds! If you read Chomsky's book "Rethinking Camelot" that claims JFK was escalating the war in Vietnam and not working to end it in light of Chomsky having an ethnic anti-Catholic agenda, then it makes sense. Chomsky is a false shepherd who claims to support the ethical principle of first and foremost holding ones own actions to scrutiny which he does when "our" actions are those that can be claimed to be of the US, but never Israel, the pro-Israel Lobby or something you might call “Jewish Power.” I am sure Chomsky would say that there is no such thing as Jewish Power. That has to be an intentional deception on his part. And maybe he does it for love of his people, for money or due to being blackmailed. Who can say. But ties to Epstein and Ehud Barak make the idea that he is an on the books agent for Israel all but certain.
Hi everyone,
Mike Whitney published a very useful "Mike's Antivax Grab-Bag: Memes, Blurbs and Links" on 3/3/23, so no, he hasn't moved into the "safe and effective" camp. It's my fault for missing this item:
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/mikes-antivax-grab-bag-memes-blurbs-and-links/?highlight=bourla
Linh
Hi everyone,
Patrick McNally asked if there's any hard proof of the Netanyahu quote about the USA being Israel's golden calf. I asked Kevin Barret, who just responded:
"According to my sources, Col. James Hanke, who was then serving as attaché to Israel, recorded the conversation. I have spoken to Col. Hanke a couple of times, several years ago, and as I recall he confirmed it. https://veterans.scaclub.org/node/270https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-hanke-60a50830/
It would be nice to hear the recording, but it’s probably classified."
Linh
P.S. Some info on Colonel James Hanke, "His final assignment was US Army Attaché to the State of Israel as the official representative of the Chief of Staff, United States Army, to the Israeli Defense Force land forces. He supervised exchange programs in Armor, Artillery, Logistics, Combat Engineering, Infantry and Special Operations, and Reserve forces, in addition to intelligence collection and counterterrorism efforts."
https://veterans.scaclub.org/node/270
Amazing, Linh, sitting over there in Laos you manage to rise to the occasion with hackles up over Barrett's mass emailing. I received it also but didn't even bother to read it as I can't take anything Unz-connected seriously any more ever since his 180 degree pivot with the onset of Covid.
If Kevin Barrett still holds with Ron Unz after the interview he did with him last night then Kevin has lost it. Barrett wrote that beautiful piece on Chomsky and Ron Unz ran over it mumbling some stupid bullshit minimizing the whole Epstein thing.
Linh,
What a crazy week at Rochelle's CDC. CDC personnel get a notification that there is an active shooter in midtown that, in terms of the city, is no where near CDC. It turns out the single fatality is a CDC employee working in reproductive health. What a weird coincidence. Then Rochelle announces her leaving CDC on Friday while the Secretary of State Blinken is visiting. Why would you leave the top public health position after such a short time? And why is the Secretary of State there for your exit announcement? Has a Sec of State ever visited CDC main campus and why the fuck would they when CDC is in the HHS not State? I missed the all hands because I cannot stand her voice so maybe she explained it there.
What's the over under on where she ends up? My guess is that she's done so much for pharma that she'll be appointed president of some university (head of an institute is simply too little for what she's done) and end up on some assorted pharma boards. As Johnny Dangerously said, "Crime doesn't pay kid. Well, maybe a little."
There's a very good piece on Meryl Nass's Substack about Walensky et al. The new CDC director is probably going to be the shill we had as CDC director here in Maine, a man who tried to cover up a Legionnaire's outbreak at a VA hospital in Illinois, which fired him.
Ron pays his writers like a Jew hands out charity.
Thank you Linh Dinh.
My oldest nephew, 46, "died suddenly" in New York last week. His father, a former director of the World Bank, had absolute trust in the quality of US sickcare - despite my efforts to educate him.
I used to post messages regularly on unz.com. He never replied to my messages regarding vaccine injuries.
Alfred
Egypt
When people write of the superb health care [sic] wealthy Americans enjoy, I always beg to differ. They just get more of the same crap care that's dished out to the rest of us and don't have the smarts to find things out for themselves (little things such as breast cancer being mostly preventable and curable).
Today was a hard read but important-Angry White pussy line particularly. Seems difficult to grow back a pair of balls once they're gone. Naming Jewish power is still my number one priority so that the Talmudic syndicate is exposed for all their satanic operations.
Great analysis, Linh. I never go on the UNZ site anymore. And I couldn't listen to Kevin's interview with him either.
Hi Peggy, I did listen to Kevin's interview with Unz. Ron Unz nailed his metaphorical coffin shut as far as I am concerned. You did well to avoid it. I can only hope that Kevin finally sees Ron for what he is.
hard reading to swallow to day, but worth reading
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
I fear this may help explain why Kevin Barrett has trouble seeing the primary loyalties of Ron Unz. I imagine that Kevin being on Unz's front page is a significant contribution to Kevin's audience size and contributor base. Just a guess...
"Though entirely baseless, it’s taken by fools as fact, but these chumps also believe in gas chambers,"
you write. And since we agree that words are important, I will answer. Last night, after watching the crowing of the latest British king, I wandered over to 'who Do You Think You Are?' a social history documentary series which is always of great interest to me. Last night, the history of the family of Matt Lukas, the comedian of Little Britain fame was being traced. I did not know he was of Jewish background and the program was anything but funny. His grandmother was a refugee from Berlin just prior to World War 2. An only child, she had left her mother who suffered from multiple sclerosis behind, unable to travel. Many of her relatives fled to so after visiting Berlin, Matt was taken to the Netherlands and among other things, discovered one of his grandmother's cousins had boarded with the Frank family of Anna Frank fame, just before they went into hiding. He is mentioned in one of Anna's letters. Matt was guided to the marshalling camp where Jews being deported were taken before being taken to various camps such as Auschwitz and Sebiborg. The woman who was sharing this history with him brought up photocopies of lists of names which included his family members and their destinations, and inevitably, the dates of their deaths which were all faithfully recorded by the German scribes. Only a handful of younger cousins survived from this large family, most of whom Matt had been in contact with in his youth. So my question to you is: is this all faked? These lists complete with names and dates which exactly correspond to family records kept by his grandmother and records in Berlin? And where did these people go if they did not go to the death camps? Is there an unknown country somewhere where they were all shunted off to and continued to live and never made attempts to contact their cousins and sisters? And all these pictures and accounts I have read over the years, personal accounts of people who survived, typically only one of many family members who did not? Are they are faked as well? You must realise that what you said in one sentence is ridiculous and tarnishes the beauty of your usual conversation. Lest you think I am a Jew, I am not. I have traced my family history back to the original knights who came over to England with William the Conqueror. Not that that is anything to be proud of, but definitely not Jews. But words matter.
Hi Isha,
Of course, words matter, so read what I wrote. I dismissed the story of gas chambers, that's it, in that sentence.
First off, you shouldn't rely on the BBC for anything. This is a deadly serious matter that deserves serious attention.
To start with, you can read Ron Unz! When it comes to debunking Holocaust bullshit, he's actually very good:
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-jews-and-nazis/
For a much deeper dive into this, read Arthur Butz' Hoax of the Century. It's even available for free online, with Epub and PDF versions to download
https://archive.org/details/pdfy-UmoTv9mqmhbYdEYn
As I've said repeatedly, one doesn't have to speculate as what happened, only point out the bullshit. I've never said Jews didn't die. Many millions of people died in WWII, including at least a million Vietnamese. There are photos of skeletal Vietnamese, too, and entire families were also wiped out. That doesn't mean they were killed in gas chambers by Nazis.
Many people have pointed out the bullshit in the Holocaust narrative, which we aren't allowed to question without being branded Nazi. In Germany, you can even go to jail for doubting any aspect of the colossal Holocaust bullshit.
In a recent article, I quoted my late friend Rudy List, a world class mathetician, “The British could decode the Enigma machine, so they knew what the Germans were doing. There’s no mention of gas chambers. The Red Cross inspected the concentration camps, and there’s no mention of it. If there’s anything to the official narrative, there must be some documentation about gas chambers in the German archives, but nobody has found anything about it, and there’s nothing in the Russian archives.”
For stating those facts, Rudy would have been jailed in Germany.
Here's an eye opening article by Alexander Cockburn:
https://www.unz.com/acockburn/truth-and-fiction-in-elie-wiesels-night/
Many more people have debunked the absurd Holocaust narrative. Of course, the BBC, CNN or Fox is not going to interview or feature them. From their narratives on 9/11, Jewjabs or Ukraine War, etc., it should be clear they are endless sources of massive lies.
Linh
Dear Linh, thanks for taking the time to answer. I have read the Unz articles before and am not convinced, even though they give a very complete picture of how cancellation was being foisted on us as a trial run for the future. As a teenager in the late fifties and early sixties I read many personal accounts of death camps and the thought they were all fakes (and it would have need to be all) is not something I can yet concede. But I am open to having my opinion changed. I found the Cockburn article very interesting, especially as it led me to another of his articles which talk about the need for context in judging historical situations. I have recently discovered (perhaps through a comment in your posts, I can't remember) a Substack account #Prussiagate. In it, there are a number of articles about the context from which the Nazi Party arose, and this has almost nothing to do with the evils of worldwide Jewry. This goes some way to explain why Hitler tolerated Jewish generals and officers in his army or for that matter, a Jewish dentist fixing his teeth. The Jews were tangential to his and the Prussians real objectives, which they seem quite on track to achieve. Best wishes, Isha
Hi Isha,
Many Holocaust accounts are bullshit, others are truthful, but the true ones describe concentration camps, not death camps with gas chambers. Take perhaps the best among them, If This is Man by Primo Levi. There's no mention of gas chambers, and Levi survived until the end of the war, like so many inmates of these "death camps." Many did die near the end of WWII, thanks to massive allied bombing of Nazi occupied countries. Germans themselves were starving outside the camps. In Vietnam, at least a million people died primarily because food couldn't get to them, thanks to allied bombing. In short, Americans caused those skeletal Jews you see in the famous photos, including the corpses you see stacked up.
After the Fall of Saigon, hundreds of thousands of people were herded into Communist concentration camps, and their memoirs often sound worse than true Holocaust narratives. Others who didn't write about their hellish experiences would talk about it, in bits and pieces. I've heard these stories. No Vietnamese claims that Communists ran death camps, only vicious concentration camps where sadistic punishment often occured, and yes, people were murdered.
Let me ask you an innocent question. If Jews were meant to be mass murdered in death camps, why were so many still alive years into their internment. If the answer is they had to be worked nearly to death before being murdered, then why weren't they killed when they were so starved, by Allied bombing, they were useless as workers?
For lying stupendously about his Holocaust experience, Elie Wiesel was awarded the Nobel Prize!
In a recent article, I quoted a passage from the website of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial and Museum, "Bones that did not burn completely were ground to powder with pestles and then dumped, along with the ashes, in the rivers Soła and Vistula and in nearby ponds, or strewn in the fields as fertilizer, or used as landfill on uneven ground and in marshes."
Do you believe that?
Linh
Dear Linh, In answer to your question there was a distinction between death camps and concentration camps, both of which the Nazis built in abundance. Sobibor was used only for murder and to my understanding, did not have a selection committee - if you were sent there, it was to die. Auschwitz-Birkenau, again to my understanding, was vast and included areas for those meant to be murdered immediately, workers, and others selected as workers being 'stored' I guess you could say, who did have access to a hospital of sorts, but what that meant was a place to lie when you were obviously too ill to work and would probably die soon. But not always. Prisoners who had been medical people in their former lives were used to staff these hospitals. Don't forget that the majority of doctors in Berlin had been Jewish. A reference to hospitals did not mean anything like medical care, it mostly meant not having to go out to work and someone perhaps bringing you water. A camp as enormous as Auschwitz-Birkenau had many different aspects and from all I have read the Nazis did not have a single comprehensive plan for creating these places - they made it up as they went along. Perhaps the answer to your question as to why they were not killed is that the effort was too monumental. Many of them were killed through beatings and neglect, but as I understand it, the gas chambers were reserved for entire trainloads that could be processed in an industrial way. This is how it was at Sobibor and similar places - off the trains, down the ramp, and off to the gas chambers.
I don't know why the idea that ground bones could be used for fertilizer is so absurd to you - charcoal from burnt forests was routinely exported to Britain from the US as fertilizer before the days of phosphate fertilizers from Nauru arrived and bonemeal is still used as a fertilizer, albeit not carbonized. Germany did not have a source of phosphate fertilizer that I am aware. And if Germans and their prisoners were starving, it was because Allied bombers stopped the flow of agricultural products from the countries they had invaded, the source of German food for much of the war years. This was the reason the Dutch and other populations were starving during the last years of the war.
As to why the British made no mention of gas ovens in their despatches, I understand that they certainly knew about them as they were told of them by people who escaped Europe to bring the word and they chose not to put an end to it, prioritizing their military and political goals. Context is needed here. This is not something to be proud of later and might have been carefully covered up. FOI was not a thing then and the English have not been called 'perfidious Albion' for nothing.
By the way, I instantly knew Wiesel's story about the young violinist was bullshit, having once played the violin. It is a fragile and highly-strung instrument (indeed the origin of the expression I believe) and neither the violin nor its bearer would have been in any condition to play Beethoven in a moving fashion. Just ridiculous as any violinist would know.
Isha
"I wandered over to 'who Do You Think You Are?"
Simple. There are only two criteria that are NOT abstractions:
1) Human Being; Homo sapiens sapiens. ie. I am a Human Being.
2) either are biologically Male or Female.
There is nothing else.
Everything else is all abstraction.
Agree. Simple. 'Who Do You Think You Are' only brings us stories that have a dramatic twist, most are rejected as being too boring. So and so begat so and so and nothing happened. Well, lots of things happened, but not suitable for our tv audience. Entertaining abstractions make the cut.
Great. So why do Jews think that their abstractions are more deserving of defence than any other group?
I have had dumb arguments ending in ad hominems (ie. "anti Semite) because they do not want the light shed on their misdeeds and bad behaviour. For example, one of my customers took offence to my sign that states, "BDS Israel". So my reply was, " Are you telling me that it is Jewish pride that is behind the defence of their bad actions? That, it is only reprehensible behaviour if non-Jews project that behaviour?"
Non-Jews do not scream like Jews for censorship, cancelling or doxxing, and demand judicial punishment for saying something that disagrees with them... or prison time.
Well... the "woke" tried, and it is falling apart.
Perhaps more groups should be crying out for justice for their abstractions - the massacred groups in Ruanda or Cambodia for instance. The answer to that one is obvious. I have often thought that the massacre of the Twin Towers was nothing on the scale of deaths except that it made Prime and every other Time on television which turned into a Major Abstraction. Next to what happened in Ruanda, of which I have seen no action photos, it was very small indeed. And next to covid and vaccination deaths - tiny - hence the need to censor and cancel endlessly and the stifled cries are coming from all directions, lets leave the Jew, non-Jew dichotomy out of it.
Black days, stormy nights
No love, no hope in sight
Don't cry, for it's coming
Don't die without knowing the cross
Ghettos to the left of us
Flowers to the right
There'll be bread for all of us
If we can just bear the cross
Sweet songs of salvation
A pregnant mother sings
She lives in starvation
Her children need all that she brings
We all have our problems
Some are big, some are small
Soon all of our problems
Will be taken by the cross
Etc. (Will Oldham)