I dislike rich sex tourists as much as anyone, but I think in this case the problem is bigger. Lots of young men in the West have no option to start a relationship, and arguably it will get worse as the economy worsens. In my parents generation, most couples were legally married and stayed together. In my generation or younger, I don't think I know anyone or almost anyone who is "happily married". Even young people are divorced (if they married at all) or are single with a string of failed relationships behind them, or, increasingly, no relationships at all. So part of it is "cheap pussy", but part of it is just the human need of companionship. I think it's a scam, in the end, like the Ukrainian mail brides. Just as there is no "free lunch", there is no "cheap pussy" -- you pay in other ways.
Unless the West returns to a saner morality, things will get worse. Or we will all become gay/transgender, perhaps after some mRNA genetic vaccine or a microchip in our brains. https://youtu.be/SvxDX-EeZM0
On a bus through Thailand, sat behind me was a young American expat and a Thai girl. For hours I overheard their sporadic conversation. She obviously had hopes for marriage, and he was obviously about to dump her and try another country. It was as if as the time drew closer, he became more distant and non-committal, and she more desperate, laying on thick the terms of endearment and trying to pry a commitment to future plans out of him. It made me feel ashamed.
Sometime prior I had been on a small puddle jumper from HK to Bangkok, I believe. I don't know what model it was, but it was 5 seats wide. Several rows ahead was a morbidly obese American man in his late 20's travelling with his mother. Seatbelt-extender sized, he took up 2 seats, I'm thinking 500 pounds. He was dressed in sweatpants, and had the manners to match. He was obviously on an expedition to lose his virginity, financed by his own mother. Oh well, everyone's got to have something good on their bucket list. What was most curious is that a rather large American woman his age passed by and accidentally brushed against him, and he whipped his head around the best he could and gave her a dirty look and some cross words. I don't know why, but this too made me feel shame, maybe on his behalf. That shame turned to terror when he got up to go to the head. The aircraft literally bounced and wobbled as he plodded to the back of the plane, and I believed there was a good possibility the shift in weight might knock the little turboprop out of the sky.
One thing that put me off about Thailand is the constant presence of degenerate westerners. If you're not one of them, how can the Thais know? They just assume you're there for the same reason, especially the cabbies and tuk tuk drivers. "Sorry not interested" is one of the first Thai expressions I learned. Gets on your nerves after a while.
A common, if paradoxical refrain of Cambodian drivers is "You want to visit 𝘛𝘶𝘰𝘭 𝘚𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘨? You want to fire 𝘈𝘒-47?" I only spent a few days altogether in Thailand, and I'm not into drinking or the bar scene, but I can imagine it's crawling with them. I had an apartment in Phnom Penh for a couple years. I'm not trying to say I'm better than them, but I took Khmer lessons, and tried my best to at least get around without depending on a translator. Lots of Khmers knew English though, and were eager for the rare opportunity to use it. I made friendships with the drivers and other people I interacted with, and had an age-appropriate partner. The Westerners in PP were rare back then, and the creepers stood out like a sore thumb. They may as well have worn t-shirts saying "arrest me". From what I've read though, child welfare is the business of Western backed NGO's , and they are very much only interested in publicity and money. A foreigner was once prosecuted for napping in the same guesthouse as his nephew-in-law on a family vacation, and the testimony of family, friends, and neighbors counted for nothing.
I was enjoying the advantage of the economic inequality and a good exchange rate, as are all who conduct any kind of business across borders with poorer countries. I mostly kept to myself though, and had hobbies which kept me occupied at home. I was lucky to have met a very unique person who didn't just view me as a cash machine. I went there with no expectations and no plan for the future, I had just had enough of the collective mental illness that is America, and at the time, I had a very unforgiving attitude toward the people and culture I was surrounded by, yet completely alien to.
It was interesting to observe the young women who worked in Western-catered establishments. They typically worked at a place for about 9 months, then quit out of boredom. There's angst among the "middle" class, because they're enamored with the fantasy of an America of not just security, but glamour and wealth, and feel like there's nothing for them in their own country (I had a friend who was convinced that 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘦 in the US was paid a salary by the government). The feeling is largely justified, because the only way to wealth is nepotism or marriage to a foreigner (many in the government do quite well with their "unofficial economy" of fees and taxation). Starting a business is open to all who have the capital outlay, though in a country with a prevailing wage of $30 a month, that is rare. There is always the option of running little carts or restaurants out of a street-level home. A family living together and pooling their resources could get a leg up, but the people I knew didn't want to live with their family, another trait of American psychosis exported the youth of the world. I had a friend who kept his own apartment, despite having plenty of room at his family's house. It wasn't a hump shack, because he didn't know any girls. He was just unhappy, isolated, sick with envy and want. The same feelings I was engulfed by in my youth.
I know what 𝘐'𝘥 suggest they focus their efforts on, but it's not really my place. Trying to dispel their notions of America is akin to a millionaire telling a poor person that money won't solve their problems. It's futile and condescending.
The same dream of America and Europe as an economic paradise exists in Thailand and the Philippines too.
Most Thais only make at most $300 USD a month. Inflation has gone up 30 to 40 percent over the last years and many Thais are making less than before the myriad lockdowns.
In America or Europe they can save money and buy homes even on working class salaries.
Many of the wealthy already have the US or Europe as their primary residence including the Thai king, Rama 10, who spends most of his time in Germany.
Thanks for giving Phoenix it's props....doesn't get much better than being lumped in with LA & Philly.
Went to fill up my water jug the other day & found the price had doubled from 25 to 50 cents. Fkn machine even ate my quarter. You see a picture of Lake Mead lately ?
Thanks for more biting exposure of the collapsing global shit hole gulag that the Satanic pedovore filth have erected for the mindless sheeple, the electro thingy jabbing and triple jabbed Zombie masses waddling to the edge for their long overdue dive. Thailand, that open aired brothel and land of LBFMs (little brown fucking machines) invented by the Pentacon garbage after their "tours of duty" while "serving their country" as that evil scum genocided their way across Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. More depressing than the end of the road burn outs that you describe as they max out on pussy was in fact the entire tawdry knock off Las Vegas arcade cartoon that passes for night "life" in these towns reeking of sweat and fake orgasm$.
As the already jaded LBFM said, opening her latest john's wallet and flicking through the wad of filthy fiat assessing the potential for a "relationship" based on coitus and juices ...."Me luv yu velly long time."
Keep on rocking, Linh....you're right up there with the greats like Joe Bageant and Brautigan.
I've never been to Pattya, seems like one of the most depressing places on earth. A lot of these places in SEA has a really dark, sinister vibe. I'd much rather go to Chiang Mai or Kanchanaburi, somewhere chill.. Luang Prabang..Anywhere "rich" russians dont go.
I went to a semi-opulent resort in Phuket owned by a Russian and chock full of rich Russians. I found their behavior rather pleasant and polite. They left the breakfast buffet reasonably intact, unlike similar hog-troughs you would find on the Vegas strip. The only put-off was cigarette smoking as it was in American culture a few decades before. The “poor” Russians were renting chairs down at the beach where their extended family would gather in rather cohesive groups, and what was most notable was that their children were under control and behaving in a reasonable manner(you won’t find them chimpping-out at Disneyland).
It seems there’s a curve as in the farther west you go the the farther decent behavior goes downhill.
Yeah, maybe im wrong about the russians. I guess age, socioeconomic status etc plays a part. I have just heard so much bad about them and i havent clicked with the few i've met. I havent been to Asia in about 15 yrs and in those days it was the israelis who made me want to vomit on a regular basis.
Intrestligly some sort ethnogeniesis is going on in the far north of Sweden right now, where white women, who have left for the cities, are getting replaced by thai women from Isan. Its not a bad deal for the women, these guys up there are farmers who often own huge areals of wood and farmland. Might evolve into some sort of distinct hapa culture with time, buddhist-lutheranism, if they can keep their daugthers from moving to Stockholm.
Miscegenation is never good, it only serves the interests of the jews. White men need to start getting control of their women again and the only way is to expel jews from their various countries.
Hua Hin seems to be the place most scandi/thai couples move to if theyre resonably well to do. But i guees their kids will be engulfed by thai culture, i dont see the same possibility for a ethnogenesis there. Which tbh is a stretch in n.sweden too, but it would be kinda cool. I mean Scandinavia is the appendix of Asia anyway so.
I have lived in Thailand for years and am married to a Thai woman (never a bar girl. Your normal accountant and chef). So, I have more compassion than Linh for these lost men. I have known some.
The biggest draw of Thailand and the Philippines is the women for sure. However it isn't just the pussy. Western men migrate to Thailand because it is more of a man's world while the west is a woman's world. If you are over 50 you are deemed worthless in the West, especially by less than obese women and employers. Many need a goal or dream to really feel alive. Others are content to live their lives of quiet desperation.
Some men come to South Eastern Asia for the pussy. Others come for real relationships. Some for serial relations with non bar girls. You can get whatever type of setup you want. Many men here start with the bar girls or Tinder and then migrate to marriage some stupidly by marrying bar girls.
The men offing themselves are usually lost before coming here or having financial problems.
The wealthy who come here have a field day. The working class area being forced out by visa changes unless they have a good military or private industry pension.
You can still live here cheaply but the government does not want people who aren't at least financially comfortable even if the tourist is bringing in more money than the average thai makes (many only make about $300 a month. $1000 a month is a cherished middle class income even in Bangkok.)
In many ways, what is happening here in South Eastern Asia is the same as in the White West. The rulers and managerial classes of places like Thailand, Bali and Malaysia don't want the useless eaters. They really only want as expats and tourists wealthy Chinese or Japanese but will tolerate wealthy Whites.
They are all competing for the same small group while the average person in the countries are more likely to profit from the middle and working classes and even the backpackers. But it is really only the wealthy who matter thus the changes.
We shall see if the affluent Chinese go back to flooding SE Asia or they head elsewhere for travel or simply stay in lockdown forever over the flu.
Standing out front of my brother's bar with his wife and my (Japanese) wife, three young guys roll up on motor bikes and one asks my wife "how much?" Sister in law rips him a new one so hard he falls off his bike, friend all laughing at him. Extreme loss of face! Priceless moment I'll never forget.
My brother and his (educated non-bar girl) wife owned the Baitong Bar in Chiang Rai - a watering hole for western eco-tourists and globe trotting Germans. Nice place, but they lost it in the 98 crash and had to move to Canada. Visited a couple of times and liked the north, but the Thai girls never appealed to me. Too squeaky and always smelling of garlic. Pass.
Learned a few things from my sister-in-law, who is from a police family. Those bar girls ain't always Thai, especially in the dives. Some are from Myanmar, Laos or Cambodia, sold by their families, often to cover gambling debts. A couple of them got arrested with their escort on a night bus we were on. Girls deported, escort fined I was told.
I really don't get the allure of SE Asia. Stinking hot and humid most of the time, difficult languages, hard to trust people, and a cultural trait of never taking responsibility for anything. Police and judges corrupt as hell. Marrying into a police family kept the bad guys away from my brother, but a lot of ex-pats who open businesses get shaken down pretty hard, or just lose it all when their "wife" decides to dump them.
Two nephews, both born in Thailand, neither speaks much Thai or have any interest in the place. Sister in law goes back once a year for family visits. Friends all expect her to pay when they go out because she snagged a rich farang - that's how they see it. Also, when shopping locally she'd get charged the "farang price" for the same reason. Had to go all the way across town to do her shopping. You just see the facade if you're a tourist. If you live there or have family, different story. Not on my list of places I'd return to.
It's always amusing when someone gets bent out of shape over something some stranger said on the internet. If you like it there, fine, but why get upset because I don't? Does that make any sense?
When I studied Chinese in China in 1985 people told me go to Thailand, have a nice girl and stay in Kho Samui. Glad I never went. Would have killed me as it killed many others. All to often I have seen Westeners who got used to the automatic adulation a white skin engendered and then not being able to readjust to just being a nobody back home. Also our Northern environment (I am German) doesn´t prepare us for the onslaught on the senses when in tropical countries. The smells, the sun, the year round green, the fruits a.s.o. People are overwhelmed until they get used to it. Then though they cannot easily go back to dark and grey
Europe. Something snaps and they end up in the gutter back home. Seen it from the 80s on in Europeans who had spent to much time in India and South East Asia.
I lived in Mongolia from 2004 to 2011 and worked in tourism. Mongolia is damn cold in the winter and there is only a short summer. Nature is sparse as Mongolia has the northernmost deserts and the southermost permafrost. Mongolians don´t give a damn whether you are white as they are used to living with Russians . I have seen time and again Europeans arriving directly from Thailand or Burma or Vietnam and behaving the way they used to in these countries where people are unfailingly polite and smiling and never letting on when you trespass. Boy are they in for an unpleasant surprise in Ulan Bator. I remember Mongolians having fun scaring Europeans by suddenly rising up and saying Booo. Not to mention all the pickpockets delighted by these innocent victims who thought they were still in Thailand or the robbers choking and drunken tourists who never had the foresight to look behind.
All in all I think it is a good thing if Europeans are not able to travel to Asia in large numbers anymore. It was neither good for them nor for Asians. The merry go round of civilisations is entering another phase and now it will be Europeans who get the shitty end of the stick.
For the record, this was the comment that got ebear banned:
"I thought I was. You mean putting Mr. Indignant in his place doesn't meet your exacting standards, oh ye who constantly rips on Ron Unz and the Mighty Jews? Fuck you, you self-important hypocrite. Unsubscribe."
Yeah, like I'm really going to miss this guy... Unhinged pussies already have Unz Review as their chimp out sty, so they should just stay there.
If you're at all interested in the nuclear issue, I just came across a very intriguing presentation, quite by chance. It's up to you to determine his credibility, but there is a most provocative and compelling series of demonstrations in the final third of the video- https://rumble.com/v19w9w7-if-nukes-are-a-hoax-what-about-the-nuclear-power-plants.html
I dislike rich sex tourists as much as anyone, but I think in this case the problem is bigger. Lots of young men in the West have no option to start a relationship, and arguably it will get worse as the economy worsens. In my parents generation, most couples were legally married and stayed together. In my generation or younger, I don't think I know anyone or almost anyone who is "happily married". Even young people are divorced (if they married at all) or are single with a string of failed relationships behind them, or, increasingly, no relationships at all. So part of it is "cheap pussy", but part of it is just the human need of companionship. I think it's a scam, in the end, like the Ukrainian mail brides. Just as there is no "free lunch", there is no "cheap pussy" -- you pay in other ways.
Unless the West returns to a saner morality, things will get worse. Or we will all become gay/transgender, perhaps after some mRNA genetic vaccine or a microchip in our brains. https://youtu.be/SvxDX-EeZM0
On a bus through Thailand, sat behind me was a young American expat and a Thai girl. For hours I overheard their sporadic conversation. She obviously had hopes for marriage, and he was obviously about to dump her and try another country. It was as if as the time drew closer, he became more distant and non-committal, and she more desperate, laying on thick the terms of endearment and trying to pry a commitment to future plans out of him. It made me feel ashamed.
Sometime prior I had been on a small puddle jumper from HK to Bangkok, I believe. I don't know what model it was, but it was 5 seats wide. Several rows ahead was a morbidly obese American man in his late 20's travelling with his mother. Seatbelt-extender sized, he took up 2 seats, I'm thinking 500 pounds. He was dressed in sweatpants, and had the manners to match. He was obviously on an expedition to lose his virginity, financed by his own mother. Oh well, everyone's got to have something good on their bucket list. What was most curious is that a rather large American woman his age passed by and accidentally brushed against him, and he whipped his head around the best he could and gave her a dirty look and some cross words. I don't know why, but this too made me feel shame, maybe on his behalf. That shame turned to terror when he got up to go to the head. The aircraft literally bounced and wobbled as he plodded to the back of the plane, and I believed there was a good possibility the shift in weight might knock the little turboprop out of the sky.
One thing that put me off about Thailand is the constant presence of degenerate westerners. If you're not one of them, how can the Thais know? They just assume you're there for the same reason, especially the cabbies and tuk tuk drivers. "Sorry not interested" is one of the first Thai expressions I learned. Gets on your nerves after a while.
A common, if paradoxical refrain of Cambodian drivers is "You want to visit 𝘛𝘶𝘰𝘭 𝘚𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘨? You want to fire 𝘈𝘒-47?" I only spent a few days altogether in Thailand, and I'm not into drinking or the bar scene, but I can imagine it's crawling with them. I had an apartment in Phnom Penh for a couple years. I'm not trying to say I'm better than them, but I took Khmer lessons, and tried my best to at least get around without depending on a translator. Lots of Khmers knew English though, and were eager for the rare opportunity to use it. I made friendships with the drivers and other people I interacted with, and had an age-appropriate partner. The Westerners in PP were rare back then, and the creepers stood out like a sore thumb. They may as well have worn t-shirts saying "arrest me". From what I've read though, child welfare is the business of Western backed NGO's , and they are very much only interested in publicity and money. A foreigner was once prosecuted for napping in the same guesthouse as his nephew-in-law on a family vacation, and the testimony of family, friends, and neighbors counted for nothing.
I was enjoying the advantage of the economic inequality and a good exchange rate, as are all who conduct any kind of business across borders with poorer countries. I mostly kept to myself though, and had hobbies which kept me occupied at home. I was lucky to have met a very unique person who didn't just view me as a cash machine. I went there with no expectations and no plan for the future, I had just had enough of the collective mental illness that is America, and at the time, I had a very unforgiving attitude toward the people and culture I was surrounded by, yet completely alien to.
It was interesting to observe the young women who worked in Western-catered establishments. They typically worked at a place for about 9 months, then quit out of boredom. There's angst among the "middle" class, because they're enamored with the fantasy of an America of not just security, but glamour and wealth, and feel like there's nothing for them in their own country (I had a friend who was convinced that 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘦 in the US was paid a salary by the government). The feeling is largely justified, because the only way to wealth is nepotism or marriage to a foreigner (many in the government do quite well with their "unofficial economy" of fees and taxation). Starting a business is open to all who have the capital outlay, though in a country with a prevailing wage of $30 a month, that is rare. There is always the option of running little carts or restaurants out of a street-level home. A family living together and pooling their resources could get a leg up, but the people I knew didn't want to live with their family, another trait of American psychosis exported the youth of the world. I had a friend who kept his own apartment, despite having plenty of room at his family's house. It wasn't a hump shack, because he didn't know any girls. He was just unhappy, isolated, sick with envy and want. The same feelings I was engulfed by in my youth.
I know what 𝘐'𝘥 suggest they focus their efforts on, but it's not really my place. Trying to dispel their notions of America is akin to a millionaire telling a poor person that money won't solve their problems. It's futile and condescending.
The same dream of America and Europe as an economic paradise exists in Thailand and the Philippines too.
Most Thais only make at most $300 USD a month. Inflation has gone up 30 to 40 percent over the last years and many Thais are making less than before the myriad lockdowns.
In America or Europe they can save money and buy homes even on working class salaries.
Many of the wealthy already have the US or Europe as their primary residence including the Thai king, Rama 10, who spends most of his time in Germany.
Linh
Thanks for giving Phoenix it's props....doesn't get much better than being lumped in with LA & Philly.
Went to fill up my water jug the other day & found the price had doubled from 25 to 50 cents. Fkn machine even ate my quarter. You see a picture of Lake Mead lately ?
"I see Bad Moon a Rising"
Bill
Thanks for more biting exposure of the collapsing global shit hole gulag that the Satanic pedovore filth have erected for the mindless sheeple, the electro thingy jabbing and triple jabbed Zombie masses waddling to the edge for their long overdue dive. Thailand, that open aired brothel and land of LBFMs (little brown fucking machines) invented by the Pentacon garbage after their "tours of duty" while "serving their country" as that evil scum genocided their way across Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. More depressing than the end of the road burn outs that you describe as they max out on pussy was in fact the entire tawdry knock off Las Vegas arcade cartoon that passes for night "life" in these towns reeking of sweat and fake orgasm$.
As the already jaded LBFM said, opening her latest john's wallet and flicking through the wad of filthy fiat assessing the potential for a "relationship" based on coitus and juices ...."Me luv yu velly long time."
Keep on rocking, Linh....you're right up there with the greats like Joe Bageant and Brautigan.
Go back to Unz…
PS
and stay there!
I've never been to Pattya, seems like one of the most depressing places on earth. A lot of these places in SEA has a really dark, sinister vibe. I'd much rather go to Chiang Mai or Kanchanaburi, somewhere chill.. Luang Prabang..Anywhere "rich" russians dont go.
I went to a semi-opulent resort in Phuket owned by a Russian and chock full of rich Russians. I found their behavior rather pleasant and polite. They left the breakfast buffet reasonably intact, unlike similar hog-troughs you would find on the Vegas strip. The only put-off was cigarette smoking as it was in American culture a few decades before. The “poor” Russians were renting chairs down at the beach where their extended family would gather in rather cohesive groups, and what was most notable was that their children were under control and behaving in a reasonable manner(you won’t find them chimpping-out at Disneyland).
It seems there’s a curve as in the farther west you go the the farther decent behavior goes downhill.
Yeah, maybe im wrong about the russians. I guess age, socioeconomic status etc plays a part. I have just heard so much bad about them and i havent clicked with the few i've met. I havent been to Asia in about 15 yrs and in those days it was the israelis who made me want to vomit on a regular basis.
Personally, I'd rather hang with a Russian family anywhere in the world than a loud, bleating American cattle herd.
Agreed, but as with the cold war im a third positionist. Why choose between pest or cholera?
Intrestligly some sort ethnogeniesis is going on in the far north of Sweden right now, where white women, who have left for the cities, are getting replaced by thai women from Isan. Its not a bad deal for the women, these guys up there are farmers who often own huge areals of wood and farmland. Might evolve into some sort of distinct hapa culture with time, buddhist-lutheranism, if they can keep their daugthers from moving to Stockholm.
Miscegenation is never good, it only serves the interests of the jews. White men need to start getting control of their women again and the only way is to expel jews from their various countries.
Asians are white now, and white women are black.
Whole villages south of Hua Hin populated with Swedish and Norwegians too...
Hua Hin seems to be the place most scandi/thai couples move to if theyre resonably well to do. But i guees their kids will be engulfed by thai culture, i dont see the same possibility for a ethnogenesis there. Which tbh is a stretch in n.sweden too, but it would be kinda cool. I mean Scandinavia is the appendix of Asia anyway so.
Yeah, it's def a bit higher caste down there...
Makes me proud to be an American.
I have lived in Thailand for years and am married to a Thai woman (never a bar girl. Your normal accountant and chef). So, I have more compassion than Linh for these lost men. I have known some.
The biggest draw of Thailand and the Philippines is the women for sure. However it isn't just the pussy. Western men migrate to Thailand because it is more of a man's world while the west is a woman's world. If you are over 50 you are deemed worthless in the West, especially by less than obese women and employers. Many need a goal or dream to really feel alive. Others are content to live their lives of quiet desperation.
Some men come to South Eastern Asia for the pussy. Others come for real relationships. Some for serial relations with non bar girls. You can get whatever type of setup you want. Many men here start with the bar girls or Tinder and then migrate to marriage some stupidly by marrying bar girls.
The men offing themselves are usually lost before coming here or having financial problems.
The wealthy who come here have a field day. The working class area being forced out by visa changes unless they have a good military or private industry pension.
You can still live here cheaply but the government does not want people who aren't at least financially comfortable even if the tourist is bringing in more money than the average thai makes (many only make about $300 a month. $1000 a month is a cherished middle class income even in Bangkok.)
In many ways, what is happening here in South Eastern Asia is the same as in the White West. The rulers and managerial classes of places like Thailand, Bali and Malaysia don't want the useless eaters. They really only want as expats and tourists wealthy Chinese or Japanese but will tolerate wealthy Whites.
They are all competing for the same small group while the average person in the countries are more likely to profit from the middle and working classes and even the backpackers. But it is really only the wealthy who matter thus the changes.
We shall see if the affluent Chinese go back to flooding SE Asia or they head elsewhere for travel or simply stay in lockdown forever over the flu.
Funny anecdote:
Standing out front of my brother's bar with his wife and my (Japanese) wife, three young guys roll up on motor bikes and one asks my wife "how much?" Sister in law rips him a new one so hard he falls off his bike, friend all laughing at him. Extreme loss of face! Priceless moment I'll never forget.
My brother and his (educated non-bar girl) wife owned the Baitong Bar in Chiang Rai - a watering hole for western eco-tourists and globe trotting Germans. Nice place, but they lost it in the 98 crash and had to move to Canada. Visited a couple of times and liked the north, but the Thai girls never appealed to me. Too squeaky and always smelling of garlic. Pass.
Learned a few things from my sister-in-law, who is from a police family. Those bar girls ain't always Thai, especially in the dives. Some are from Myanmar, Laos or Cambodia, sold by their families, often to cover gambling debts. A couple of them got arrested with their escort on a night bus we were on. Girls deported, escort fined I was told.
I really don't get the allure of SE Asia. Stinking hot and humid most of the time, difficult languages, hard to trust people, and a cultural trait of never taking responsibility for anything. Police and judges corrupt as hell. Marrying into a police family kept the bad guys away from my brother, but a lot of ex-pats who open businesses get shaken down pretty hard, or just lose it all when their "wife" decides to dump them.
Two nephews, both born in Thailand, neither speaks much Thai or have any interest in the place. Sister in law goes back once a year for family visits. Friends all expect her to pay when they go out because she snagged a rich farang - that's how they see it. Also, when shopping locally she'd get charged the "farang price" for the same reason. Had to go all the way across town to do her shopping. You just see the facade if you're a tourist. If you live there or have family, different story. Not on my list of places I'd return to.
I live in Chiang Rai, and I’m so glad your dumbass doesn’t like it - in fact, I’ll thank my lucky stars right now!
It's always amusing when someone gets bent out of shape over something some stranger said on the internet. If you like it there, fine, but why get upset because I don't? Does that make any sense?
Insert scathing rebuttal here_________________________
Or just grow the fuck up. Your choice. I'm done.
OK, guys, let's just cool it. Let's get back to discussing the many issues raised in the article. Thanks!--Linh
When I studied Chinese in China in 1985 people told me go to Thailand, have a nice girl and stay in Kho Samui. Glad I never went. Would have killed me as it killed many others. All to often I have seen Westeners who got used to the automatic adulation a white skin engendered and then not being able to readjust to just being a nobody back home. Also our Northern environment (I am German) doesn´t prepare us for the onslaught on the senses when in tropical countries. The smells, the sun, the year round green, the fruits a.s.o. People are overwhelmed until they get used to it. Then though they cannot easily go back to dark and grey
Europe. Something snaps and they end up in the gutter back home. Seen it from the 80s on in Europeans who had spent to much time in India and South East Asia.
I lived in Mongolia from 2004 to 2011 and worked in tourism. Mongolia is damn cold in the winter and there is only a short summer. Nature is sparse as Mongolia has the northernmost deserts and the southermost permafrost. Mongolians don´t give a damn whether you are white as they are used to living with Russians . I have seen time and again Europeans arriving directly from Thailand or Burma or Vietnam and behaving the way they used to in these countries where people are unfailingly polite and smiling and never letting on when you trespass. Boy are they in for an unpleasant surprise in Ulan Bator. I remember Mongolians having fun scaring Europeans by suddenly rising up and saying Booo. Not to mention all the pickpockets delighted by these innocent victims who thought they were still in Thailand or the robbers choking and drunken tourists who never had the foresight to look behind.
All in all I think it is a good thing if Europeans are not able to travel to Asia in large numbers anymore. It was neither good for them nor for Asians. The merry go round of civilisations is entering another phase and now it will be Europeans who get the shitty end of the stick.
For the record, this was the comment that got ebear banned:
"I thought I was. You mean putting Mr. Indignant in his place doesn't meet your exacting standards, oh ye who constantly rips on Ron Unz and the Mighty Jews? Fuck you, you self-important hypocrite. Unsubscribe."
Yeah, like I'm really going to miss this guy... Unhinged pussies already have Unz Review as their chimp out sty, so they should just stay there.
Thank you Linh.
Possibly of An Island by Houellebecq was my introduction to the dude. We're phased out gently in that one but phased out nonetheless.
I really enjoyed Platform as well. He's a trip.
If you're at all interested in the nuclear issue, I just came across a very intriguing presentation, quite by chance. It's up to you to determine his credibility, but there is a most provocative and compelling series of demonstrations in the final third of the video- https://rumble.com/v19w9w7-if-nukes-are-a-hoax-what-about-the-nuclear-power-plants.html
Oh, and Jonathan didn't return to Thailand a few years later, he returned 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘩 later...
Hi Gigolo Joe,
You're right. I'll correct it now. So the pull of Thailand was that strong...
Linh