I waited four hours to see if Thorsten J. Pattsberg would retract his idiotic insult or apologize to me, but he hasn't, so I have banned him from this SubStack, and canceled his free subscription. I work too hard to put up with such nonsense and, more importantly, I do not want bizarrely insolent comments to set the tone here.
With that out of the way, I trust we'll get insightful comments relevant to this article.
I am reminded, when reading this fascinatingly wide-ranging article on filial cannibalism, of two works: Swift’s satirical proposal (A Modest Proposal) that the Irish devour their children for the welfare of society. I was reminded even more vividly of Goya’s magnificent painting Saturn Devouring His Son, which is based on the story of the Titan Cronus. To quote from Hesiod (trans. H. G. Evelyn-White): “The great Cronos swallowed as each came forth from the womb to his mother's knees with this intent, that no other of the proud sons of Heaven should hold the kingly office amongst the deathless gods. For he learned from Earth and starry Heaven that he was destined to be overcome by his own son, strong though he was, through the contriving of great Zeus.”
A story comes from the Ukraine during the Holodormor (haha, my autocorrect tried to change "Holodormor" to Holocaust). A mother and her daughter were starving to death in their village. One day, mad with hunger, the mother looked out the window and, miracle of miracles, saw a turkey strutting around their yard. She raced out, caught the turkey, killed it and cooked it. As she ate and her hunger abated, she remembered that her daughter was starving, too. She ran to find her, but she was nowhere to be found.
I recently read a book by an Englishman who spent time in Haiti not long after their revolution. He claimed certain voodoo rituals included child sacrifice and the eating of the victim by all.
Yes, she had killed and eaten her daughter. The horror of that one incident alone is mind-blowing, and three million Ukrainian Christians starved to death in that famine--each with their own tragic story.
Martin Latsis, the Latvian Jew who had been made head of the Ukranian CheKa, deliberately implemented the Holodormor. He was a descendant of the Khazars, the Turkic-Mongol people who had converted to Judaism in the 7th Century AD and whose empire, which lay roughly in the area where Ukraine is now, was destroyed by the Kievan Rus in 1065. The Khazars dispersed into the Russian shtetls from which vengeful Talmudic-directed Bolshevism emerged in the 20th Century, seizing power in 1917, murdering the tsar with his family and retinue, and mass murdering Russian Christians in a genocide that eventually claiming 66 million victims.
Victoria Nuland, the bloodthirsty Under-Secretary of State and main architect of the Ukrainian provocations that forced Putin's invasion of Ukraine, the subsequent slaughter of a half million Ukrainian men, and the emigration of half its population, is a Khazar Jew as is President Zelensky, not to mention the main Western cheerleaders for the war.
It is extremely disturbing that they seem to enjoy inflicting maximum pain before killing their victims. It always makes me wonder what they might do to us as the current "Bolshevik Revolution 2.0" unfolds.
Then I realized that they have already taken what they did to the three men and boy in that picture to new heights. Instead of mutilating someone's genitals as part of a means of torturing them to death, they are duping countless young people to sign up for gender re-assignment surgery.
In other words, they are getting us to do unspeakable things... to ourselves. The mental torture of having done something so hideous to oneself is unfathomable.
That's a very interesting take on gender re-assignment, Anne. Also, the Jewish interrogators at Nuremberg used the method of crushing the testicles of their victims to get them to confess to whatever they wanted them to. These were some of the same interrogators who had gotten the Old Bolsheviks to confess to all sorts of absurd things during the famous show trials of the 1930s.
It is a special kind of evil the enjoys inflicting pain. The Bolsheviks went out of their way to inflict it, even staging mass executions to which they would invite their friends so they could all enjoy watching, for example, officers being fed slowly, feet first, into furnaces, that sort of thing.
You've also made me think about the implications of circumcision, in that regard.
Your comment brings to mind the work of the late German-American psychoanalyst, Erich Fromm.
He famously said (and I paraphrase) man is unique among the animals; he can not exist passively; to remain passive is to court insanity. So man must either act toward his world with love and compassion or he must act with hate and sadism. Unfortunately in our world many are still choosing the second option.
Circumcision is a very interesting issue - in particular, 8th day circumcision as practised by Jews.
Have you heard of the half-Jewish (uncircumcised) endocrinologist Roger Dommergue? He believed 8th day circumcision was what caused the kind of Jewish behaviour displayed by the Bolsheviks. There is a translation of an interview he did on the topic contained in this blog post:
The fatal flaw in the West is that it ends in cannibalizing everything and everyone just to keep going on for a few more miserable years. Young people know their future is bleak but lack the vocabulary to deal with it. They end up finding copes or ropes. A lot of boomers are in denial, still not having realized that the world didn't stop in 1969, 1977, or 1985. Some are stuck in between and realize the horrors ahead but are mired in an impossible present. But we're all stuck hurtling towards that bad future, whether in denial, in passivity, or hoping to accelerate it.
For whatever reason, somehow the Western world has left its children in a strange state of disconnect with its past and values and traditions, unlike, say, cultures in the East, which have similar problems with invasive technology and other problems of post-modernity, but do not leave their peoples not having the slightest clue who they are and what they came from. The West leaves its young completely divorced from heritage and ultimately reality. If it is collectively willing to do that to them, then why not cannibalize their futures even though it will only buy time to further expand the national debt, let the MIC break a few more nations, push more atomized 'development,' and let the old get a few more months in nursing homes?
I guess the system used to be that if you played along, you would get enough to live, but you'd end up chained to a corporate paper-pushing job, an exurban wasteland comfort box, and a frumpy spouse. It was financed with debt, but at least you got sire 2.5 future consumers, got to retire, and at least got to feel like you had some stake in a flawed but ultimately good system.
The new system is live in ze pod, eat ze bugs, own nothing and be happy. It seems that little will be done to fight back against this bad future coming down. The youth of the West are accused of being lazy nihilistic hedonists. And sure, they are. You can't beat the system, and that's what the system wants and gets. If the boomers could swap places with the zoomers, they'd be the same way. Without hope, people act hopeless. Go figure.
Wow! How could anyone think your writing is AI? Anyway, pretty gruesome essay to read first thing in the morning. But I loved the pictures of the beautiful children. Here in the US we are sacrificing our children and throwing them to the dogs. I'm very sad and depressed.
I completely relate to your sadness, dear P. Bean.
When I feel like this, I try to remind myself that one of the best ways to fight against these monsters is to not let them drag me into the morass of depression. Remember what it's like to feel sunshine dancing on your skin - and let the demons run away squealing.
It is hard to believe he, Pattsberg, would have made such a claim. It is of course tantamount to an accusation of plagiarism. If you had completely stricken the comment so that it was un-viewable, I would have gone crazy wondering what it was.
I'm surprised you never mentioned the most popular case of children sacrifice and cannibalism when God sacrificed his son for all of us to eat weekly with a sip of his blood. While there is a lot on honoring your parents in the Bible, it is a little light on caring for children. I once hypothesized that the point of the "don't boil a kid in its mother's milk" command was to not mortgage your kid's future or don't eat the seed corn and, perhaps since it was not palatable to elders, it got reinterpreted to be a stupid ridiculous food rule for Jews.
Biologically, it makes sense that 'women and children first' since they are the future of the species. Parents eating their children seems to be the event in a perverted society where boomer/jewish thinking takes over and it is all about me right now.
I know a wealthy Jewish man who let his grandkids go into foster care because it was an inconvenience for him and his even more wealthy son. He disowned his daughter for her inconvenient addictions. Talk about throw away culture. Father and son will both eat very well for that sacrifice. Perhaps they'll carry what they've done just as did Thyestes.
My memory is hazy now (Alzheimers?), wasn't it Ishmael, the protagonist in Melville's "Moby Dick" who recounted the story of a lifeboat that had fled a whaler that had been sunk by a Sperm whale. The life boat was somewhere adrift in the vast South Pacific with no provisions. There were two men and a cabin boy in the life raft. It soon became apparent the three would die of starvation. The boy volunteered (it was said) to be killed and consumed to enable the two men to survive. (My apologies; now that I think of it a bit this anecdote may have been in the preface to "Moby Dick." I believe it might have been one of the whaling stories that Melville read as he prepared to write his novel.)
Some weeks later the life raft was rescued by another whaling ship. The two men, while in desperate condition, were alive. The bones of the boy were in the bottom of the lifeboat with their marrow removed.
As readers of Melville know, Ishmael, the lone survivor of the sinking of the Pequod spends his final years absconded in the crow's nest (or the widow's walk) of a house in Nantucket, staring silently out to sea, never uttering another word.
(My memory is hazy on all this now perhaps the sad result of age. Perhaps someone with a better memory can correct me on the above recounting. In any event at about the time Melville wrote "Moby Dick" (c.1850) petroleum or "oil" was discovered in Titusville, Pennsylvania and the Caspian Basin in Russia. The Second Industrial Revolution commenced and the need for whale oil ended -- abruptly -- now replaced by kerosene.)
On the topic of planned mass starvation, recycling of body parts into manure, cannibalism and such , there's a video on Mao's Great Leap Forward and Rural Collectivisation. It's really an eye-opener. Particularly relevant are the segments 20:58 to 45:03
"Why Chairman Mao Is Responsible For More Than 45 Million Deaths"
China has never changed. Chinese history is a perpetually self repeating cycle of mass horror. China has never ceased being an Oriental Despotism. The label may sound modern, but the same bloodsucking "undead" lies underneath. I wish more people could open their eyes and not delude themselves into thinking that China could play any constructive role in humanity's progress to a more humane future.
It's a shame that Putin has been forced by the Evil Empire to associate himself with such a monstrosity.
I'm a writer with the Washington Post working on a story relating to art in Vietnam, and I was hoping to connect with you. I'm at nickhilden@gmail.com.
Long time reader here, i have appreciated your writings since the days of Unz.
I just had something way off topic to ask you.
On your last stay in Pakse i believe you ran into a friend of mine named Jon, he is a longtime resident of a town called Salavan near Pakse and is married to a local lady.
He is an American in his mid fifties who has chronic arthritis so you will hopefully remember him.
I was just wondering if you knew anything of his whereabouts as we were in regular contact but he seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.
We met in Cambodia in the late 1990's and have been on many adventures together since then.
All the best Linh and good to hear your health is returning, you are one of the few truth tellers left in this strange world we find ourselves in.
I was supposed to go to Salavan to hang out with Jon, but I've been too tired. Plus, I was seriously sick, as you know. I have Jon's email, so email me at linhdinh99@yahoo.com and I'll give it to you.
Are you diabetic? If so, I didn’t know that. And I don’t recall your having discussed a blood sugar crisis in any of your posts. If you want to take this private my email is lbt31@protonmail.com
I've never had my blood tested, but it became pretty obvious what was wrong, so I cut out the beer and sugar, and most of the starch, and I've improved since. Compared to Vientiane, it's not as easy to eat healthy in Pakse, but I'm doing my best.
Good moves, Linh. A better diet will improve your thinking, and hence, your writing, as well, I think. Also, it sounds like it is improving your immune response as well. No small matter. I hope you keep it up. Good luck going forward!
I've been following Pattberg recently. Even bought his most recent book, which was sadly disappointing because it revealed him as a Holocaust defender. I like him primarily because he also defends China at a time where both left and right are attacking them.
He had another comment, other than the one he was banned for: "you sure are a man of learning" directed at Linh. In my naivete I took it as a well-deserved compliment. It's often hard to pick up irony and sarcasm in email responses. Hence I suppose the annoying profusion of emoticons and lol's.
Thorsten has a dark side. Just look at his thumbnail. He seems to have been persecuted for his unconventional views. Maybe he cracked under the pressure. But no need to take it out on others.
speaking of affection for one's children, i am reminded of the song "sunrise, sunset" from the musical "fiddler on the roof" - Wikipedia says:
"Sunrise, Sunset" is often played at weddings. In 2011 Sheldon Harnick wrote two versions of the song, suitable for same-sex weddings, with minor word changes. For example, for male couples, changes include "When did they grow to be so handsome".
i have not yet been invited to a same sex wedding but there is a chance that could happen since i do know a fairly close relative who might get married to a person of the same sex - in theory i would go and be happy that they had found someone they wanted to spend the rest of their life with
yogi berra said, 'in theory, theory and practice are the same - in practice, they're different'
william ophuls has written a book which arrived at my house yesterday: apologies to the grandchildren - reflections on our ecological predicament, its deeper causes, and its political consequences
a poet wrote
"life goes on, with or without a reason
life goes on - enter another season"
things do go on - until they don't
a song from bob dylan - "people don't die or live - people just float --- she's gone with the man in the long black coat"
Hi everyone,
I waited four hours to see if Thorsten J. Pattsberg would retract his idiotic insult or apologize to me, but he hasn't, so I have banned him from this SubStack, and canceled his free subscription. I work too hard to put up with such nonsense and, more importantly, I do not want bizarrely insolent comments to set the tone here.
With that out of the way, I trust we'll get insightful comments relevant to this article.
Linh
I am reminded, when reading this fascinatingly wide-ranging article on filial cannibalism, of two works: Swift’s satirical proposal (A Modest Proposal) that the Irish devour their children for the welfare of society. I was reminded even more vividly of Goya’s magnificent painting Saturn Devouring His Son, which is based on the story of the Titan Cronus. To quote from Hesiod (trans. H. G. Evelyn-White): “The great Cronos swallowed as each came forth from the womb to his mother's knees with this intent, that no other of the proud sons of Heaven should hold the kingly office amongst the deathless gods. For he learned from Earth and starry Heaven that he was destined to be overcome by his own son, strong though he was, through the contriving of great Zeus.”
I must also confess that I kept a postcard of this painting on my desk for several years while dealing with some personal issues.
Hi Linh,
A story comes from the Ukraine during the Holodormor (haha, my autocorrect tried to change "Holodormor" to Holocaust). A mother and her daughter were starving to death in their village. One day, mad with hunger, the mother looked out the window and, miracle of miracles, saw a turkey strutting around their yard. She raced out, caught the turkey, killed it and cooked it. As she ate and her hunger abated, she remembered that her daughter was starving, too. She ran to find her, but she was nowhere to be found.
I recently read a book by an Englishman who spent time in Haiti not long after their revolution. He claimed certain voodoo rituals included child sacrifice and the eating of the victim by all.
Can one assume the mother was delusional and the "turkey" was in actuality her daughter?
Yes, she had killed and eaten her daughter. The horror of that one incident alone is mind-blowing, and three million Ukrainian Christians starved to death in that famine--each with their own tragic story.
Martin Latsis, the Latvian Jew who had been made head of the Ukranian CheKa, deliberately implemented the Holodormor. He was a descendant of the Khazars, the Turkic-Mongol people who had converted to Judaism in the 7th Century AD and whose empire, which lay roughly in the area where Ukraine is now, was destroyed by the Kievan Rus in 1065. The Khazars dispersed into the Russian shtetls from which vengeful Talmudic-directed Bolshevism emerged in the 20th Century, seizing power in 1917, murdering the tsar with his family and retinue, and mass murdering Russian Christians in a genocide that eventually claiming 66 million victims.
Victoria Nuland, the bloodthirsty Under-Secretary of State and main architect of the Ukrainian provocations that forced Putin's invasion of Ukraine, the subsequent slaughter of a half million Ukrainian men, and the emigration of half its population, is a Khazar Jew as is President Zelensky, not to mention the main Western cheerleaders for the war.
There is a picture of victims of the Ukraine famine that never fails to enrage me on this page (you have to scroll down, the direct link to the image is a url several hundred yards long): https://craignelsen.substack.com/p/nazi-eugenics-pffft-try-bolshevik
That picture has been haunting me.
It is extremely disturbing that they seem to enjoy inflicting maximum pain before killing their victims. It always makes me wonder what they might do to us as the current "Bolshevik Revolution 2.0" unfolds.
Then I realized that they have already taken what they did to the three men and boy in that picture to new heights. Instead of mutilating someone's genitals as part of a means of torturing them to death, they are duping countless young people to sign up for gender re-assignment surgery.
In other words, they are getting us to do unspeakable things... to ourselves. The mental torture of having done something so hideous to oneself is unfathomable.
That's a very interesting take on gender re-assignment, Anne. Also, the Jewish interrogators at Nuremberg used the method of crushing the testicles of their victims to get them to confess to whatever they wanted them to. These were some of the same interrogators who had gotten the Old Bolsheviks to confess to all sorts of absurd things during the famous show trials of the 1930s.
It is a special kind of evil the enjoys inflicting pain. The Bolsheviks went out of their way to inflict it, even staging mass executions to which they would invite their friends so they could all enjoy watching, for example, officers being fed slowly, feet first, into furnaces, that sort of thing.
You've also made me think about the implications of circumcision, in that regard.
Your comment brings to mind the work of the late German-American psychoanalyst, Erich Fromm.
He famously said (and I paraphrase) man is unique among the animals; he can not exist passively; to remain passive is to court insanity. So man must either act toward his world with love and compassion or he must act with hate and sadism. Unfortunately in our world many are still choosing the second option.
Circumcision is a very interesting issue - in particular, 8th day circumcision as practised by Jews.
Have you heard of the half-Jewish (uncircumcised) endocrinologist Roger Dommergue? He believed 8th day circumcision was what caused the kind of Jewish behaviour displayed by the Bolsheviks. There is a translation of an interview he did on the topic contained in this blog post:
https://henrymakow.com/2022/08/Circumcision-Explains-Jewish-Psyche.html
Thank you for the link, Craig, and for writing about this. I'm looking forward to reading your post.
The fatal flaw in the West is that it ends in cannibalizing everything and everyone just to keep going on for a few more miserable years. Young people know their future is bleak but lack the vocabulary to deal with it. They end up finding copes or ropes. A lot of boomers are in denial, still not having realized that the world didn't stop in 1969, 1977, or 1985. Some are stuck in between and realize the horrors ahead but are mired in an impossible present. But we're all stuck hurtling towards that bad future, whether in denial, in passivity, or hoping to accelerate it.
For whatever reason, somehow the Western world has left its children in a strange state of disconnect with its past and values and traditions, unlike, say, cultures in the East, which have similar problems with invasive technology and other problems of post-modernity, but do not leave their peoples not having the slightest clue who they are and what they came from. The West leaves its young completely divorced from heritage and ultimately reality. If it is collectively willing to do that to them, then why not cannibalize their futures even though it will only buy time to further expand the national debt, let the MIC break a few more nations, push more atomized 'development,' and let the old get a few more months in nursing homes?
I guess the system used to be that if you played along, you would get enough to live, but you'd end up chained to a corporate paper-pushing job, an exurban wasteland comfort box, and a frumpy spouse. It was financed with debt, but at least you got sire 2.5 future consumers, got to retire, and at least got to feel like you had some stake in a flawed but ultimately good system.
The new system is live in ze pod, eat ze bugs, own nothing and be happy. It seems that little will be done to fight back against this bad future coming down. The youth of the West are accused of being lazy nihilistic hedonists. And sure, they are. You can't beat the system, and that's what the system wants and gets. If the boomers could swap places with the zoomers, they'd be the same way. Without hope, people act hopeless. Go figure.
Wow! How could anyone think your writing is AI? Anyway, pretty gruesome essay to read first thing in the morning. But I loved the pictures of the beautiful children. Here in the US we are sacrificing our children and throwing them to the dogs. I'm very sad and depressed.
I completely relate to your sadness, dear P. Bean.
When I feel like this, I try to remind myself that one of the best ways to fight against these monsters is to not let them drag me into the morass of depression. Remember what it's like to feel sunshine dancing on your skin - and let the demons run away squealing.
You're right, the children are beautiful.
It is hard to believe he, Pattsberg, would have made such a claim. It is of course tantamount to an accusation of plagiarism. If you had completely stricken the comment so that it was un-viewable, I would have gone crazy wondering what it was.
I'm surprised you never mentioned the most popular case of children sacrifice and cannibalism when God sacrificed his son for all of us to eat weekly with a sip of his blood. While there is a lot on honoring your parents in the Bible, it is a little light on caring for children. I once hypothesized that the point of the "don't boil a kid in its mother's milk" command was to not mortgage your kid's future or don't eat the seed corn and, perhaps since it was not palatable to elders, it got reinterpreted to be a stupid ridiculous food rule for Jews.
Biologically, it makes sense that 'women and children first' since they are the future of the species. Parents eating their children seems to be the event in a perverted society where boomer/jewish thinking takes over and it is all about me right now.
I know a wealthy Jewish man who let his grandkids go into foster care because it was an inconvenience for him and his even more wealthy son. He disowned his daughter for her inconvenient addictions. Talk about throw away culture. Father and son will both eat very well for that sacrifice. Perhaps they'll carry what they've done just as did Thyestes.
My memory is hazy now (Alzheimers?), wasn't it Ishmael, the protagonist in Melville's "Moby Dick" who recounted the story of a lifeboat that had fled a whaler that had been sunk by a Sperm whale. The life boat was somewhere adrift in the vast South Pacific with no provisions. There were two men and a cabin boy in the life raft. It soon became apparent the three would die of starvation. The boy volunteered (it was said) to be killed and consumed to enable the two men to survive. (My apologies; now that I think of it a bit this anecdote may have been in the preface to "Moby Dick." I believe it might have been one of the whaling stories that Melville read as he prepared to write his novel.)
Some weeks later the life raft was rescued by another whaling ship. The two men, while in desperate condition, were alive. The bones of the boy were in the bottom of the lifeboat with their marrow removed.
As readers of Melville know, Ishmael, the lone survivor of the sinking of the Pequod spends his final years absconded in the crow's nest (or the widow's walk) of a house in Nantucket, staring silently out to sea, never uttering another word.
(My memory is hazy on all this now perhaps the sad result of age. Perhaps someone with a better memory can correct me on the above recounting. In any event at about the time Melville wrote "Moby Dick" (c.1850) petroleum or "oil" was discovered in Titusville, Pennsylvania and the Caspian Basin in Russia. The Second Industrial Revolution commenced and the need for whale oil ended -- abruptly -- now replaced by kerosene.)
I think that the Rich Elitist would rather eat their young - before losing their money.
Sometimes I sleeps and dreams.
Sometimes I sits and thinks.
I stays dull and dumb
on homeland earth.
On the topic of planned mass starvation, recycling of body parts into manure, cannibalism and such , there's a video on Mao's Great Leap Forward and Rural Collectivisation. It's really an eye-opener. Particularly relevant are the segments 20:58 to 45:03
"Why Chairman Mao Is Responsible For More Than 45 Million Deaths"
https://youtu.be/AHR15JxckZg?feature=shared
China has never changed. Chinese history is a perpetually self repeating cycle of mass horror. China has never ceased being an Oriental Despotism. The label may sound modern, but the same bloodsucking "undead" lies underneath. I wish more people could open their eyes and not delude themselves into thinking that China could play any constructive role in humanity's progress to a more humane future.
It's a shame that Putin has been forced by the Evil Empire to associate himself with such a monstrosity.
Hi Linh,
I'm a writer with the Washington Post working on a story relating to art in Vietnam, and I was hoping to connect with you. I'm at nickhilden@gmail.com.
Hi Linh
Long time reader here, i have appreciated your writings since the days of Unz.
I just had something way off topic to ask you.
On your last stay in Pakse i believe you ran into a friend of mine named Jon, he is a longtime resident of a town called Salavan near Pakse and is married to a local lady.
He is an American in his mid fifties who has chronic arthritis so you will hopefully remember him.
I was just wondering if you knew anything of his whereabouts as we were in regular contact but he seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.
We met in Cambodia in the late 1990's and have been on many adventures together since then.
All the best Linh and good to hear your health is returning, you are one of the few truth tellers left in this strange world we find ourselves in.
Cheers from Australia
Paul
Hi Paul,
I was supposed to go to Salavan to hang out with Jon, but I've been too tired. Plus, I was seriously sick, as you know. I have Jon's email, so email me at linhdinh99@yahoo.com and I'll give it to you.
Linh
Strange comment. Good move, Linh! Are your legs all better?
Hi Tom,
I'm still not 100%, but I'm functioning normally. This blood sugar crisis has been an eye opener. Before this, I never thought about inflammation.
Linh
Are you diabetic? If so, I didn’t know that. And I don’t recall your having discussed a blood sugar crisis in any of your posts. If you want to take this private my email is lbt31@protonmail.com
Hi Tom,
I've never had my blood tested, but it became pretty obvious what was wrong, so I cut out the beer and sugar, and most of the starch, and I've improved since. Compared to Vientiane, it's not as easy to eat healthy in Pakse, but I'm doing my best.
Linh
Good moves, Linh. A better diet will improve your thinking, and hence, your writing, as well, I think. Also, it sounds like it is improving your immune response as well. No small matter. I hope you keep it up. Good luck going forward!
I've been following Pattberg recently. Even bought his most recent book, which was sadly disappointing because it revealed him as a Holocaust defender. I like him primarily because he also defends China at a time where both left and right are attacking them.
He had another comment, other than the one he was banned for: "you sure are a man of learning" directed at Linh. In my naivete I took it as a well-deserved compliment. It's often hard to pick up irony and sarcasm in email responses. Hence I suppose the annoying profusion of emoticons and lol's.
Thorsten has a dark side. Just look at his thumbnail. He seems to have been persecuted for his unconventional views. Maybe he cracked under the pressure. But no need to take it out on others.
speaking of affection for one's children, i am reminded of the song "sunrise, sunset" from the musical "fiddler on the roof" - Wikipedia says:
"Sunrise, Sunset" is often played at weddings. In 2011 Sheldon Harnick wrote two versions of the song, suitable for same-sex weddings, with minor word changes. For example, for male couples, changes include "When did they grow to be so handsome".
i have not yet been invited to a same sex wedding but there is a chance that could happen since i do know a fairly close relative who might get married to a person of the same sex - in theory i would go and be happy that they had found someone they wanted to spend the rest of their life with
yogi berra said, 'in theory, theory and practice are the same - in practice, they're different'
william ophuls has written a book which arrived at my house yesterday: apologies to the grandchildren - reflections on our ecological predicament, its deeper causes, and its political consequences
a poet wrote
"life goes on, with or without a reason
life goes on - enter another season"
things do go on - until they don't
a song from bob dylan - "people don't die or live - people just float --- she's gone with the man in the long black coat"
those are cute kids in the pictures