[Pakse, 9/28/23] Though the interview is up at Unz, many comments there are so ugly, I decided to post it here: To Unzian “Sulu,” Sylvia Wolfe did leave this memorable response: I find that final comment about the war in Vietnam horrendous. Good God, it damned us all with the implementation and refinement of Operation Popeye, for one. Set the precedent that the enemy is always abroad, the call is never coming from inside the house. Would you be willing to fight me? A fair fight, no weapons, man to woman. I live in central Illinois.
in March 2004 Adbusters magazine put out the 'infamous' issue that asked "Why Won't Anyone Say They Are Jewish" - from which i learned only 2% of US citizens identify as Jewish, but assert an oversized presence in US politics, finance, and Hollywood (propaganda) - the 2% ratio completely surprised, even shocked me at the time - and the majority of the friends i've had who are jewish have been staunch supporters of Israel which was something of a shock too, for many of them were busy supporting progressive causes - but couldn't see the murder of Palestinians as a problem - 'it just had to be done' - Linh Dinh has not pulled any punches in his condemnation of this disgusting hypocrisy - and i am happy to support him financially in my own small way - for as long as i can
It was Jewish born Henry Hertskovitz who pressed me to get to the bottom of the Jewish issue. He and Rudy List even flew me to Michigan so they could talk to me about this. Taxi in southern Lebanon, with whom I would stay for two months, also assisted me in this matter.
Henry told me he couldn't be an anti-Semite for that would mean he hates his entire family and many close friends. He hates the Jewish ideology.
The whole dysfunction of this is that Jews actually think their behaviour and values cannot be questioned. And the obvious reluctance to admit the trope of "anti-semite" is just a question of semantics and appropriation of an abstraction to force it to mean something contrived. Behaviour has nothing to do with genetics. This is all environmental dysfunction.
I have told Jews in my little buttf*ck bigoted town in BC that if they were not born in the Levant*, they cannot possibly be semites because the were not born there and they do not speak a language that relates to Phoenician or Assyrian descent.
Needless to say, they avoid me like the plague and work hard to convince others to slander me.
Oct 10, 2023·edited Oct 11, 2023Liked by Linh Dinh
Linh, I really admire the way you handled this interview. Kevin Barrett's heart is in the right place, but there are a few screws loose in his brain compartment.
You, on the other hand, have both a fine mind and a huge heart.
I sometimes force myself to listen to people I know I'll probably disagree with, just for the sake of exercising an open mind. But when I listen to how much time you had to waste during this interview countering Barrett's pie-in-the-sky ideas, I find myself longing to listen to more interviews between people of "like mind." It would allow us to develop our ideas further.
Thank you for the vote of confidence, Linh. I've always said I never wanted to battle anything but the heat of midday by sitting under a tree, but somethings are worth bursting a mouth over. As Sulu has not reached out to me, I can only assume he is not willing to put his money where his mouth is. Funny as well, in a sad way, he talks about respecting the sanctity of women in a later comment. Though for the millions of dead, raped Vietnamese women and destroyed families, he has none. We should have never been in Vietnam. Sulu seems unaware of both Operation Popeye or the Gulf of Tonkin incident, judging by his callous attitude towards the Vietnam War. American expansionism and exceptionalism for you. Proud of being genocidal, proud of being wrong.
Take care of yourself, Linh. To me and many others, you are a living literary legend.
Linh, do not mind it so much, lots of commenters at UR are either deranged maniacs or Fed trolls. I'm not sure if it was always thus, but now it is for sure. Some of those commenters try to be as offensive as possible on purpose, to rile up other commenters or the writers themselves. But I'm not sure what the ultimate purpose of UR is.
Jon's quotation is a variation of something often attributed to me, but I only saw it on a bathroom wall in Austin, Texas, "I don't know if you or I exist, but somewhere there are poems about us."
When anonymous said that he'd uploaded information to your author's profile to Goodreads it struck me as being odd since that's the sort of thing I imagine authors or their publicists would keep jealous control of - even if it was only to guard the fact that they'd chosen to not publish a profile. Anyway, Goodreads where I found the quotation.
Kudos to you for not claiming to be the original author - especially since the bathroom wall-writer was unlikely to claim you plagarised his work.
Lying assholes hijacked that comment thread, so no issue raised in the interview was discussed. This often happens at Unz. That's why I call it a circle jerk.
After thousands of words attacking me, catdompanj suddenly stated he had known me in Philly. This gives him special insight into my person, he claimed. I have no idea who he is. Even his claim of being a resident of Port Richmond is suspect. It's a neighborhood of tough, no nonsense Poles, Ukrainians and Irish, with no whiny pussies like catdompanj. None of them would even think of calling himself "catdompanj."
He'd have loved to call himself Doja Cat, but that's taken.
Here's a news item regarding Port Richmond:
Ukrainian brothers sentenced to 20 years in janitorial slavery plot
By Jeremy Roebuck
Likening their misdeeds to war crimes, a federal judge sentenced two Ukrainian brothers to 20 years in prison Thursday for their roles in a modern-day slavery operation in Port Richmond, in which victims were beaten, kidnapped, raped, and terrorized to keep them working in janitorial jobs for little to no pay.
Mykhaylo Botsvynyuk, 37, and Yaroslav Churuk, 48, said nothing and showed little reaction as District Judge Paul S. Diamond handed down their punishment, more than four years above the maximum term outlined by federal sentencing guidelines.
"In the 12 years I have been doing this job, these are perhaps the worst crimes I have ever seen," the judge said. "You sought to destroy these people by using them almost to death. The evidence in this case hearkens back to war crimes tribunals in demonstrating just how cruel and abhorrent people's conduct can be."
Three of the victims sat in the courtroom's front row, struggling to hide their deep emotional scars. Even a decade removed from their time spent working seven days a week, sleeping five or more to a room in a dirty Port Richmond apartment, and living in fear that any attempt at escape would be met with violent retribution, one rubbed his eyes red.
Another woman's weeping began the moment the judge took the bench.
"We didn't receive any money. We were half-starving. We were tired," said one former worker, whose name was withheld, as he testified through a Ukrainian interpreter. Of his captors, he added, "They didn't have anything human in them. They didn't have the law of God in them."
In addition to their prison terms, Botsvynyuk and Churuk were ordered to pay restitution into a $288,000 fund meant to pay their victims for their labor.
Both were convicted last year on racketeering conspiracy charges, three years after two more siblings, Omelyan and Stepan Botsvynyuk, were sentenced to a life term and 20 years, respectively. A fifth brother, Dmytro, is believed to be hiding in Ukraine, which has no extradition treaty with the United States.
The men took advantage of widespread poverty in their native country to recruit family friends and neighbors with promises of legal immigration to the U.S., a $500-a-month job, and free room and board.
"But as soon as they left, all of the promises that were made to them went out the window," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Daniel A. Velez, who prosecuted the case with Assistant U.S. Attorney Michelle Morgan.
Mykhaylo Botsvynyuk, they said, arranged travel for more than 20 victims between 2000 and 2007, funneling them from Ukraine to Poland to the Netherlands to Germany and eventually to Mexico, where they were coached on how to cross the border by appearing to be Americans.
Once they were in the U.S., the brothers sent them to Philadelphia and put them to work cleaning homes, office buildings, and businesses such as Walmart, Target, and other big-box stores. Prosecutors have said the retail chains likely were unaware of the illegal status of their workers.
They worked long hours, were fed little, and felt helpless to escape. Most spoke no English, their travel documents had been taken away, and all were living in the country illegally.
Those who still mustered the courage to resist were beaten or their families were threatened back home. At least two female captives were raped.
In court Thursday, Velez described the fate of one of the trafficked workers who managed to flee to Chicago. Churuk and an associate tracked him to Illinois, where they abducted the man from the steps of a federal courthouse and dragged him back to Philadelphia to be beaten in front of the other captives.
One of the women, Velez said, was sexually assaulted by at least three men.
In 2001, Omelyan Botsvynyuk dragged the woman down a flight of stairs, pulling patches of hair from her head. He tied her hands with a clothesline, taped her mouth shut, and sodomized her while others looked on. If she tried to escape, she was told, her then-9-year-old daughter in Ukraine would be placed in a brothel to pay off her smuggling debts.
The woman struggled to put her experience into words as she testified anonymously through a Ukrainian interpreter Thursday.
"Our peace, our health was taken away from us - our young years and trust in people," she said. "They took away the most precious parts of my life."
I have mixed feelings about organized religion but the idea of evil is the only way to explain much of what happens in the world whether wars, jewjab, or any of the smaller scale horrors.
In Australia they found that a crocodile expert who was a celebrity on the BBC had a long track record of sexually assaulting dogs and children. He would film himself doing his evil deeds and post it online.
This is quite the news story. There are people out there that are absolutely despicable.
And amazingly, "Ukraine has no extradition treaty with the US." And I guess the US doesn't have any leverage with Ukraine to spring guys like Gonzalo Lira either. It's clearly nothing he said....
in March 2004 Adbusters magazine put out the 'infamous' issue that asked "Why Won't Anyone Say They Are Jewish" - from which i learned only 2% of US citizens identify as Jewish, but assert an oversized presence in US politics, finance, and Hollywood (propaganda) - the 2% ratio completely surprised, even shocked me at the time - and the majority of the friends i've had who are jewish have been staunch supporters of Israel which was something of a shock too, for many of them were busy supporting progressive causes - but couldn't see the murder of Palestinians as a problem - 'it just had to be done' - Linh Dinh has not pulled any punches in his condemnation of this disgusting hypocrisy - and i am happy to support him financially in my own small way - for as long as i can
Hi Three Eyed Goddess,
It was Jewish born Henry Hertskovitz who pressed me to get to the bottom of the Jewish issue. He and Rudy List even flew me to Michigan so they could talk to me about this. Taxi in southern Lebanon, with whom I would stay for two months, also assisted me in this matter.
Henry told me he couldn't be an anti-Semite for that would mean he hates his entire family and many close friends. He hates the Jewish ideology.
Linh
What a bizarre point of view.
The whole dysfunction of this is that Jews actually think their behaviour and values cannot be questioned. And the obvious reluctance to admit the trope of "anti-semite" is just a question of semantics and appropriation of an abstraction to force it to mean something contrived. Behaviour has nothing to do with genetics. This is all environmental dysfunction.
I have told Jews in my little buttf*ck bigoted town in BC that if they were not born in the Levant*, they cannot possibly be semites because the were not born there and they do not speak a language that relates to Phoenician or Assyrian descent.
Needless to say, they avoid me like the plague and work hard to convince others to slander me.
Linh, I really admire the way you handled this interview. Kevin Barrett's heart is in the right place, but there are a few screws loose in his brain compartment.
You, on the other hand, have both a fine mind and a huge heart.
I sometimes force myself to listen to people I know I'll probably disagree with, just for the sake of exercising an open mind. But when I listen to how much time you had to waste during this interview countering Barrett's pie-in-the-sky ideas, I find myself longing to listen to more interviews between people of "like mind." It would allow us to develop our ideas further.
Thank you for the vote of confidence, Linh. I've always said I never wanted to battle anything but the heat of midday by sitting under a tree, but somethings are worth bursting a mouth over. As Sulu has not reached out to me, I can only assume he is not willing to put his money where his mouth is. Funny as well, in a sad way, he talks about respecting the sanctity of women in a later comment. Though for the millions of dead, raped Vietnamese women and destroyed families, he has none. We should have never been in Vietnam. Sulu seems unaware of both Operation Popeye or the Gulf of Tonkin incident, judging by his callous attitude towards the Vietnam War. American expansionism and exceptionalism for you. Proud of being genocidal, proud of being wrong.
Take care of yourself, Linh. To me and many others, you are a living literary legend.
Linh, do not mind it so much, lots of commenters at UR are either deranged maniacs or Fed trolls. I'm not sure if it was always thus, but now it is for sure. Some of those commenters try to be as offensive as possible on purpose, to rile up other commenters or the writers themselves. But I'm not sure what the ultimate purpose of UR is.
Linh Dinh interviews Barrett and Barrett proves to be tedious
Liking for Sylvia's comment.
“I don’t know if he exists, but somewhere there are poems about him”
Linh Dinh - writing (in my imagination) about anonymous on Unz who was upset about not being told he should've been shot in the head.
Ah - the internet. Where we can all travel anonymously and post seemingly reasonable comments that are untrue.
Hi everyone,
Jon's quotation is a variation of something often attributed to me, but I only saw it on a bathroom wall in Austin, Texas, "I don't know if you or I exist, but somewhere there are poems about us."
Linh
When anonymous said that he'd uploaded information to your author's profile to Goodreads it struck me as being odd since that's the sort of thing I imagine authors or their publicists would keep jealous control of - even if it was only to guard the fact that they'd chosen to not publish a profile. Anyway, Goodreads where I found the quotation.
Kudos to you for not claiming to be the original author - especially since the bathroom wall-writer was unlikely to claim you plagarised his work.
Hi Jon,
Lying assholes hijacked that comment thread, so no issue raised in the interview was discussed. This often happens at Unz. That's why I call it a circle jerk.
After thousands of words attacking me, catdompanj suddenly stated he had known me in Philly. This gives him special insight into my person, he claimed. I have no idea who he is. Even his claim of being a resident of Port Richmond is suspect. It's a neighborhood of tough, no nonsense Poles, Ukrainians and Irish, with no whiny pussies like catdompanj. None of them would even think of calling himself "catdompanj."
He'd have loved to call himself Doja Cat, but that's taken.
Here's a news item regarding Port Richmond:
Ukrainian brothers sentenced to 20 years in janitorial slavery plot
By Jeremy Roebuck
Likening their misdeeds to war crimes, a federal judge sentenced two Ukrainian brothers to 20 years in prison Thursday for their roles in a modern-day slavery operation in Port Richmond, in which victims were beaten, kidnapped, raped, and terrorized to keep them working in janitorial jobs for little to no pay.
Mykhaylo Botsvynyuk, 37, and Yaroslav Churuk, 48, said nothing and showed little reaction as District Judge Paul S. Diamond handed down their punishment, more than four years above the maximum term outlined by federal sentencing guidelines.
"In the 12 years I have been doing this job, these are perhaps the worst crimes I have ever seen," the judge said. "You sought to destroy these people by using them almost to death. The evidence in this case hearkens back to war crimes tribunals in demonstrating just how cruel and abhorrent people's conduct can be."
Three of the victims sat in the courtroom's front row, struggling to hide their deep emotional scars. Even a decade removed from their time spent working seven days a week, sleeping five or more to a room in a dirty Port Richmond apartment, and living in fear that any attempt at escape would be met with violent retribution, one rubbed his eyes red.
Another woman's weeping began the moment the judge took the bench.
"We didn't receive any money. We were half-starving. We were tired," said one former worker, whose name was withheld, as he testified through a Ukrainian interpreter. Of his captors, he added, "They didn't have anything human in them. They didn't have the law of God in them."
In addition to their prison terms, Botsvynyuk and Churuk were ordered to pay restitution into a $288,000 fund meant to pay their victims for their labor.
Both were convicted last year on racketeering conspiracy charges, three years after two more siblings, Omelyan and Stepan Botsvynyuk, were sentenced to a life term and 20 years, respectively. A fifth brother, Dmytro, is believed to be hiding in Ukraine, which has no extradition treaty with the United States.
The men took advantage of widespread poverty in their native country to recruit family friends and neighbors with promises of legal immigration to the U.S., a $500-a-month job, and free room and board.
"But as soon as they left, all of the promises that were made to them went out the window," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Daniel A. Velez, who prosecuted the case with Assistant U.S. Attorney Michelle Morgan.
Mykhaylo Botsvynyuk, they said, arranged travel for more than 20 victims between 2000 and 2007, funneling them from Ukraine to Poland to the Netherlands to Germany and eventually to Mexico, where they were coached on how to cross the border by appearing to be Americans.
Once they were in the U.S., the brothers sent them to Philadelphia and put them to work cleaning homes, office buildings, and businesses such as Walmart, Target, and other big-box stores. Prosecutors have said the retail chains likely were unaware of the illegal status of their workers.
They worked long hours, were fed little, and felt helpless to escape. Most spoke no English, their travel documents had been taken away, and all were living in the country illegally.
Those who still mustered the courage to resist were beaten or their families were threatened back home. At least two female captives were raped.
In court Thursday, Velez described the fate of one of the trafficked workers who managed to flee to Chicago. Churuk and an associate tracked him to Illinois, where they abducted the man from the steps of a federal courthouse and dragged him back to Philadelphia to be beaten in front of the other captives.
One of the women, Velez said, was sexually assaulted by at least three men.
In 2001, Omelyan Botsvynyuk dragged the woman down a flight of stairs, pulling patches of hair from her head. He tied her hands with a clothesline, taped her mouth shut, and sodomized her while others looked on. If she tried to escape, she was told, her then-9-year-old daughter in Ukraine would be placed in a brothel to pay off her smuggling debts.
The woman struggled to put her experience into words as she testified anonymously through a Ukrainian interpreter Thursday.
"Our peace, our health was taken away from us - our young years and trust in people," she said. "They took away the most precious parts of my life."
I have mixed feelings about organized religion but the idea of evil is the only way to explain much of what happens in the world whether wars, jewjab, or any of the smaller scale horrors.
In Australia they found that a crocodile expert who was a celebrity on the BBC had a long track record of sexually assaulting dogs and children. He would film himself doing his evil deeds and post it online.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/uk/british-crocodile-expert-admits-raping-and-killing-dozens-of-dogs-in-torture-room/articleshow/103987864.cms
This is quite the news story. There are people out there that are absolutely despicable.
And amazingly, "Ukraine has no extradition treaty with the US." And I guess the US doesn't have any leverage with Ukraine to spring guys like Gonzalo Lira either. It's clearly nothing he said....